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🌻👑⚙️Reddit's Drag Race All Stars 2 - Episode 1: "Lean Green Queening Machines" PART 1⚙️👑🌻

The backing track of Rain on Me starts playing as shots of the new workroom play in a short montage. The clacking of heels can be heard getting louder and louder as the camera zooms in on the entrance archway.
Creolla Azzedine is the first to walk into the werkroom, stopping in a tea stand pose, head slightly down, with one feet gracefully behind the other and goes “ ¡ ZAZ ! ” cutting the air with her finger. She stands, pointing finger high in the air, a very strong pose facing the camera and, giving shoulder, she turns around, shows a little butt, resting her arm on her waist while inclining the huge hat just a little down, looking over her back with an mischievous expression. She then pops a leg and poses to the camera.
Latex chaps that grab tight to her thighs and make them pop out, so juicy, her waist is cinched, her hat is huge, this design is very Mugler.
She’s wearing a little black bolero with long sleeves; black ruffles on her chest, a long drape of satin goes around her head and flows behind as she walks. Her head is in this cotton mask that shows off just the face shape and has one circular cut for the eye. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZBQ81xYkIJlDowqcIpIp7hpjmXBnbRqRd8mDO0JxedE/edit
CREOLLA’S CONFESSIONAL: “My entrance is inspired by the legend of Zorro! I’m bringing latin reference, minimalism, chic, vintage and new age with defined angles and cuts, sharp lines everywhere. I’m living my best fantasy and ready to cut a bitch out!”
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The sound of a motorcycle engine revving can be heard as Cass drives through the werk room in her lovely yellow motorcycle, she speeds around the contestants in the corner of the room like a sheepdog rounding up the sheep before driving back to the entrance of the werk room. She parks in front of the entrance and gets off the vehicle and stands in front of the camera, holding the severed head of David Carradine (Bill) in one hand and her long katana in the other. She drops his head to the ground and removes her motorcycle helmet “Bill’s dead so now who’s next to be Cass-trated?” *Swings Katana* . http://imgur.com/a/xyRjtPi Cass’s look is inspired by Kill Bill’s very own Uma Thurman in her iconic yellow jumpsuit. She wears the iconic yellow latex jumpsuit which is now covered all over with blood and bullet wounds. Her blonde hair and face is also covered with dark red blood. With her she brings her long silver katana, a matching yellow motorcycle helmet and the severed head of Bill (which for legal reasons is fake).
CASS-TRATED’S CONFESSIONAL: “Hello my name is Cass-trated and I came to chop through the competition . . . LITERALLY! I’m your lovely forgotten contestant on S3, yes I was there! And now I’m here to finally be remembered and make some type of impact.
Cass and Creolla give each other friendly hugs as they look around the renovated workroom. “It’s all happening!” Says an excited Creolla.
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The next girl struts confidently into the werk room and hits her mark, putting her right hand on her hip, forming a physical visual of the Singapore Flag with her look (like Bob with her entrance look). “That bitch Cass left me on the damn moon, but whatever, the pride of Singapore is BACK!!!!” yells Anita Dragname.
CREOLLA’S CONFESSIONAL: “I gotta say I’m pretty impressed by Anita. I also know she is pretty impressed by me so I can respect and see her as competition.”
Referencing Anita’s last challenge before she yeeted out of the sub and her country of origin, Anita wears a replica of the Totally Spies Superspy Suit; a red, skin-tight latex catsuit with metallic silver installations on her shoulders, side of the knees and elbows. Just like the original, there are 2 “tones'' to the suit. The sides of the suit that goes from under her pits to her ankles are matte red and slightly darker to act as a “body contour”, while the rest of the suit is rhinestoned, adding a little iridescence and contrast. The full length of her right sleeve, however, is full white. In the middle of the Superspy Suit, 5 white stars can be found placed in a circle, on top of her D-cup breasteses. She has on matching white shin-length gogo boots with a chunky heel that glows a bright, neon white when they are activated.
Her hair is a big, blown out ginger quiff (think Trinity Taylor’s Naughty Nighties) that goes up to about 10 cm above her scalp. It is huge, thick and voluminous and ends right at her shoulders. White glitter comes out of the roots of her hair and extends outwards into the hair creating an ombre effect of shiny glitter and the bright ginger. Her makeup is her signature beat; high-arched graphic brows in a dark brown, soft, blended contours, double-stacked 301s, smokey eyes and a silver glitter lid. She uses cute little silver star stickers as “freckles” on her face. She finishes off her mug with a pop of colour in a bright red to match the concept of her look.
ANITA’S CONFESSIONAL:Assalamualaikum semua, my name is Anita Dragname and she’s back……….. for some of that good tex-mex they serve for breakfast. I’m back with the drive to perform rigorous CPR to this sub and give it the revival it so desperately needs. I’m hoping to have a good time and have some fun with the dolls! A crown along the way wouldn’t hurt, would it?”
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The next queen walks to the centre of the entrance way and pauses for a few seconds; she places her hands on her hips and gives a confident smirk on her face. She walks to her mark, and with her hands on her hips, she says: “As smooth as silk … as rich as Velvet.” Amelia Velvet turns several times while moving her hands in various posing positions around her face. She looks towards the other girls and smirks.
Amelia is wearing a rich, ethereal, one piece garment - a short cocoon dress with a built in floor length cape. The whole garment is in a light shade of baby blue, and the fabric is a slightly rigid, rich radzimir. The piece has two cutouts for her arms to slide out. Her wig is a shoulder length dirty blonde piece. It is wet looking and slicked back, as if she has just run her fingers through it to push it back. Her face is beautifully painted. Her jaw, cheeks and nose are contoured harshly as per usual. Amelia’s brows are highly arched and her eye makeup blends from a glittered silver to a baby blue on the upper lid, with the baby blue blending round to the bottom lid. At the outer corner of each eye, there are three tiny jewels glued on closely together to make a small triangular shape. These are the same jewels used on her embellished gloves, only smaller ( 5mm each). Amelia’s lips are a beautiful plump nude colour, with a light layer of clear silver glitter on top. Her highlighter is very visible and also has a touch of silver glitter in it. A rope pulls Amelia’s waist in, and her breasts are unpadded, though through the keyhole cutout, contouring is visible. Her hips and bum are padded generously. Her pumps are of the same colour as the garment, only they have a glossy, shiny tinge. https://docs.google.com/document/d/10LQhZcpBV5UCK5nxBKBugDo9qlpyhrre-_csAssrJGc/edit
AMELIA’S CONFESSIONAL:They must’ve been desperate for girls if they called me, but bitch, I’ll take it! Hey loves, it’s Amelia Velvet from Season 5 where I finished in tenth … well bitch at least it wasn’t last. I’m so excited to be back and show how much I’ve grown, especially with all these season 5 girls here - I’m here to prove to them that I was robbed and that I have a lot of tricks up my sleeve. Since my season, I’ve gained a greater appreciation for drag and learnt to trust my instincts a lot more. Let’s see how that plays out - it’s probably going to be a shit show, but bitch, you’ll be entertained!”
Amelia looks around to see the other girls lounging about, she runs over to introduce herself and kiki.
AMELIA’S CONFESSIONAL: “I’m super excited to see Anita here. I’m pumped to be able to prove that I can hang with the likes of her.”
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Lu runs into the werkroom, all frantic, wearing a jumpsuit made out of leaves with gold accessories, twigs on her wet brown hair, looks to both sides, sighs and says “I finally got past through security”. She then regains composure, removes the twigs of her hair, takes out the sunglasses she hid in her cleavage and poses.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lYHPgdcrKKAj3OsynEIafe5qu6wecoBDp_FFdcK6l6k/edit
After posing, Lu looks at the girls and says: “I wish I known this was happening sooner, I would have trimmed my lady bush.”
LU’S CONFESSIONAL: “Hi everyone! It’s me, Lu! I’m so excited to walk into this werkroom and compete again! Back on season 5, I had 0 experience and I overthought too much and got stuck in my head a lot so I feel very excited to see what I can do with a better headspace. The possibilities are endless! Season 5 felt like an All Stars season so I’m a bit nervous to actually compete in an All Stars season, not gonna lie, but this time I’m more sure of myself and I know I can bring my A-Game to every challenge.”
Lu doesn’t seem to immediately click with the other girls, being a more quiet queen, but she still manages to laugh along with the group.
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The next queen struts in lightly letting her coat follow her, and simply says ‘All Stars 2 bitches, let’s get relevant!”
Aurora Borealis walks into the werk room in a very genderfuck/more casual look. She has on a cashmere cheetah print button down shirt. The sleeves are cut midway before the elbow, and are quite baggy, but on the actual torso, it is stretched down and tucked into the pants fabric. The top two buttons are unbuttoned, which shows a little bit of chest hair, nicely groomed and very thin. It is a light brown, but nothing light enough that it wouldn’t be seen. Out of a chest pocket hangs a small black handkerchief, that only goes slightly below her chest. Now, the pants are high-waisted vibrant bright red bell bottoms that end slightly above the ground. The vibrant colors of the cheetah print and the bright red pop against each other to create an interesting contrast. Underneath, she has on black platform shoes, where only the very bottom of the shoe is shown. Overtop the entire outfit, she has a large suit jacket coat that extends to the bottom of her ankles. The outside of it is bright red, but on the inside is a solid jet black. When she moves, it floats behind her, only staying completely still on the shoulders. She holds a small red clutch with a bright gold circle right in the middle, with gold lacing and lining around it. Her nails are simple, light brown and short, adding just a slight addition of detail. Aurora does not have a wig on, rather has her curly dark brown hair that hangs above her head with clumps of hair solidly formed. Her makeup is simple, a soft dark red on her eyeshadow, blended with white, and just giving a soft look, with small lashes, and a light nude lip. However, she has a lot of blush on her cheekbones and nose giving a ‘flushed’ look, and she drew freckles on her nose and cheeks. This is her whole look, and it’s blending in her ‘drag’ side, and the person she is outside of when she performs.
AURORA’S CONFESSIONAL: “My name is Aurora Borealis, the first out from season 4! I’m just here to have fun and hopefully not submit later xoxo.”
CREOLLA’S CONFESSIONAL: “Aurora did a good job. I see improvement.”
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The clicking of heels echoes throughout the werkroom, drawing the other queens attention towards the entrance, as a tall figure turns the corner and struts her way forward.
Satina is wearing a skin-tight burgundy latex dress with a jewel neckline. The dress is cut down to her knees, showing off a bit of leg, before ending the ensemble with a pair of 6 inch black pumps. Across the front of the dress is a cut-out showing of most of Satina’s stomach and a bit of underboob from the queen’s breastplate - the trim of the cutout lined with black triangular jewels, giving the cut-out the appearance an open mouth eating away at Satina’s snatched body. Satina wears a slightly lighter shade of foundation, than what would normally fit her, and the queen’s facial features have been heavily carved out with an extensive use of dark contour. Her eyes consist of black smudged eyeliner, highlighted by some Scarlet red eyeshadow with a bit of red glitter mixed in. Her cheeks have been painted with a light pink rouge and to finish of the looks is Satina’s signature overdrawn lips topped with a Scarlet red matte lipstick. A long black wig styled into a small slicked-back pompadour on top rests upon Satina’s head a reveals 2 tiny red horns poking out from the queen’s scalp. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DVzYRI8Ryq-cJtgr3ps9gdC-p-flTCqfOQIMYVqT_0g
As she reaches her mark, Satina does a few quick spins, showing off the open back of the dress held together by black lace - A long scaly and slightly greasy serpentine tail is poking out through the laces, and now sweeps across the floor as the queen finishes her spinning. Satina lifts a black and red Devil’s pitchfork to the air, almost triumphantly, as she looks into the camera:
“Here to raise hell on Earth - All hail Satina!”
SATINA’S CONFESSIONAL: “I’m home! Hey y’all - I'm Satina. Season 5’s salty queen, the “reigning Miss robbed” and a lovely (mumbled) alternate for crown! I am here to show these bitches that Satina is a force to be reckoned with… Actually you know what - Cut the check already, Thank you!”
“You look so good girl! Nothing like you used to...” says Lu. “Nah, just kidding. Get in here girl!”
SATINA’S CONFESSIONAL: “Even though it’s nice to know so many queens already, it’s honestly a bit scary competing with so many of my Season 5 sisters, seeing that a lot of these have already beat me once… Allegedly at least…”
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The next girl pops in, a little shy at first but finds her confidence to deliver her opening catchphrase: “Well….let’s just try this again you bunch of bastards!” says a seductive Heather Bouvier.
She is wearing a houndstooth print bodysuit, with a leather peplum skirt and top. Leather fingerless short gloves. Also has her houndstooth earrings, arm bands, and shoes! To top it off (literally) she has got her houndstooth couture hat, complete with a little veil hiding part of her face (I’m prematurely mourning for some of you bitches. Black white Makeup, with a houndstooth lip and snatched black bun <3. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N-VFoypSSmofBk-n164heEdgJYeUaBRgrOqMcGz55EA/edit
HEATHER’S CONFESSIONAL: “Hey hey! My name is Heather Bouvier, I am 23 years of age, and I am from Los Angeles! You may know me from the SPICE Pageant….all 2 episodes of it, but I am back to take back the crown I was robbed of! My drag is very fun, campy, but that doesn’t mean I can’t turn some high fashion lewks. I’m ready to show y’all just what Heather has in store!”
CASS-TRATED’S CONFESSIONAL: “Heather is jumping out because I don’t know her and don’t know what she can do so I’m really intrigued to see what she’ll bring… or not.”
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Princest slowly struts into the room. She is wearing what appears to be a fat suit with a two piece silver bikini. Her quadruple Ds wanting to slip out of her top.The stretch marks on her stomach appeared to be stoned as they shimmered under the light, even with some of them on her thighs too. Her stiletto heels were a soft gold to go with her bikini set. We then shift to her face; her makeup was very simplistic. Blue eyeshadow, a cat eye liner, thick lashes, contoured cheeks and pink lips. Her eyes were a sapphire blue. She also wore a 22 inch blonde wig that reached to her ass. Princest then stood in a basic supermodel pose with her hands on her hips and a big smile. She looked around, confused with her surroundings. "This isn't 'The Biggest Loser'!" She shouted, starting to tear off the fat suit to reveal her bloody red anatomy in a full body suit that resembles her insides. Her vital organs shined in the light as she smirked. "God, that feels a lot better."
PRINCEST’S CONFESSIONAL: (Princest's confessional look was a cute brown pixie cut with soft makeup. She was wearing a black graphic t-shirt as she smiled.) "Hey everyone, Princest has risen from the dead! It has been way too fucking long since season 5, and I came here to win for once. I just hope I can impress everyone for once."
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Miss Fey walks in wearing a ballerina-inspired gown, with a white bodice and tail, green middle-piece and red tulle overlay. (SKETCH + REFERENCES: https://imgur.com/a/voYZdoa)
She walks en pointe, moving ethereally. The red tulle covers her bare legs. She stops and says: “Can you feel the fantasy? Because I can!.... or it could just be the hookah.”
FEY’S CONFESSIONAL: “مرحبا! I’m Fey-Té Bill Hate, the incredibly funny and sexy drag queen that finished 3rd on RDR S5. My entrance look pays tribute to 2 things: the Lebanese flag (red, white and green) and the first time I walked on the runway I was in a ballerina dress! I’m excited to show off my growth, but most importantly, I’m excited to have fun! Let’s do this!”
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When the next queen walks into the werk room she is holding a green rhinestoned apple covering her whole face. She holds it by the tip with her big, acrylic, pointy pink nails. She walks with little steps until she is in and takes the apple out of her face revealing her mug. Her eyeshadow is a gradient of greens from darker to lighter with glitter on the end and green long lashes too. Her lips are also light green and are covered in glitter like she just bit the apple she is holding. After a smile she turns the apple showing that it has been bitten and says: “One apple a day keeps this bitches away”.
Sardonyx’s look is a drag version of René Madritte’s painting “The Son of Man''. For this she is wearing a bright pink, fully rhinestoned bowler hat on top of her head. Underneath she is wearing a monet-style apple green pussycat wig. The main garment is a matching bright pink long overcoat with glitter on the lapels. The buttons of the coat are of a clearer pink with glitter on them. The top of the overcoat is wide with shoulder-pads and slowly narrows on the waist. The bottom part, which arrives almost to the knees, has a line with brighter pink and glitter in the same shade that the buttons and the lapels. Inside the coat, she has on a plain, white shirt like the one on the painting with a pink tie with a glittery S to sign the whole thing. For the bottom part of the outfit she is wearing pink pants with the same lining as the coat, with the lighter pink stripe. The shoes are some simple, glittery, pink pumps that obviously match, the bottom part of those is from the bright pink.
SARDONYX’S CONFESSIONAL: “I wanted to do something a little different from what I usually bring so... just for you to know… THIS IS ART MAWMA. But in all seriousness, this is my way of saying that drag is fun, and drag is art, so let’s make art fun for everybody.”
CREOLLA’S CONFESSIONAL: “I’m looking forward to seeing what kind of crazy shit my Season 4 sister Sardonyx is about to bring. I know she has personality.”
SARDONYX’S CONFESSIONAL: “Talking with Lu was nice, she looks really friendly.”
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Del ducks under the entrance doors. She takes silly clown steps forwards to her mark. She poses to her left, her head pointing to the camera. Del thrusts her hands forward, displaying a lavender-coloured cake atop a black cake stand. The lemon sponge is coated in a thin layer of lavender frosting, and is topped with mint-coloured (and flavoured!) chocolate shards and some white-chocolate shards too. Del holds her pose until the rabble (RE: other queens) start to give her confused looks…


"Eat it"
Del wears a lavender ghillie suit covered in unnatural lime-grass green. Her face is covered in a black mesh mask that obscures her features. Atop the mask sit a pair of white acrylic sunglasses, a white acrylic nose and moustache set, and a white acrylic dot as a beauty spot. Del's hands and feet poke out of the camouflage suit. Her hands have Lavender latex gloves on them, each coated in a brilliance of purple stones. Del's feet wear chunky lavender pumps, again covered near completely in the purple stones. A black plastic tail arches up behind Del. The S-shaped appendage arcs up to between her shoulders, where the end curls in on itself 5 times. The tail holds two implements: a mint-coloured fork and a grass-coloured knife each inset with a dark lilac jewel in the base of the handle. The cutlery are crossed like crossbones. https://imgur.com/a/HoB0Dt7
DEL’S CONFESSIONAL: Out-of-drag Del grins wide. "Hi I'm Del O'Ryan. I baked this cake just to recycle an entrance line". Del puts their index finger on their temple, "Ding".
DEL’S CONFESSIONAL: “I was pretty withdrawn… cold… pressurised? During Season 5, so I’m keen to connect properly with Lu and Satina. I hate Fey with the intensity of a thousand thousand blazing suns. The entirety of human language cannot begin to express my disdain for Fey, that sniveling worm, that grunting ape, that whining dog. Fey has insulted, demeaned, and outright mocked forces beyond her comprehension, and an end shall soon be upon Fey. As we speak, the legions of Hades come against Fey, there will be no mercy, no recompense, and no respite, for her transgressions are beyond forgiveness, and she will answer for them. Eternal torment and woe be upon you Fey, lowliest of fools, weakest of queens, dirtiest of filth, for oblivion's embrace is beyond you.”
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The camera starts shaking a little and thundering and scraping noise is heard as yet another queen approaches the werkroom. The queens present turn their heads at once in time to see a menacing figure appear in the doorway. Enter Marianna, her hulking muscle(suit) covered head to toe in green body paint. She is clad in a barbarian orc warrior outfit, consisting of a black wool brasserie with silver stitching, and a napier tartan wool skirt reaching just above her knee. The skirt and the bra have two silver rings which are attached to a light grey asymmetrical fur cloak. The ring on her bra also has two straps which reach up to a fur epaulette with three spikes, which rests on her opposing shoulder. She also wears brown leather almost-knee-high boots with steel greaves. Her hair is silver and the first foot of it is tied into a spiked mohawk with the rest allowed to fall freely. Her look is accentuated with two tusks on her lower jaw (https://sun9-9.userapi.com/c858336/v858336326/c22c7/4082jW17YNk.jpg - right one, obvi).
Marianna then swings the source of the scraping sound forward, which turns out to be a heavy double headed ax, and looks menacingly at the girls present. “I am just here to…” she snarls and gives a wicked grin, before continuing. “Quit” She then drops the axe and promptly stomps out.
MARIANNA’S CONFESSIONAL:Surprise bitch, bet you thought you'd seen the last of me. I'm the newly christened Marianna Toreador, the star, icon and undeniable main feature of seasons 1, 2, 3, AND season 1 redone.” Mari drawls with a lazy smile. “In the past I was known for some unconventional looks cut to her exploding alien baby, odd challenge ideas cut to Mari staring into nothingness on s2 and quitting supercut of Mari quitting, but I'm here to show that I still got it.”
“What... the fuck?” mumbles someone in a small voice after a moment of confused silence, before glancing around and emitting an eardrum-rupturing scream at the sight of Marianna smiling from the other side of the mirror, "!ϱnibbiʞ ɈƨυႱ" written in lipstick on her left. "
MARIANNA’S CONFESSIONAL: "This cast seems okay. Some strong queens,” Camera pans to Anita and Creolla, “some wildcards,” camera pans to Heather and me, “and no one seems to be filler…” Marianna shrugs, but the camera silently pans to Cass and Princest... “Hey, I said they're NOT filler!"
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Eve Kennedy walks in backward so the other queens can’t see her face. She then spins around giving a wink and a kiss then says her entrance line: “Out of Eden and back in the competition.”
The look is a skin tight gown that goes into an off the shoulder neckline. It is in a caucasian color and made out of a stretch jersey fabric. The gown is detailed in floral patch decals of roses and green stones to match the leaves or branches. There are wraps of the floral print that go around the arms up top and also around the bottom of the gown. The hair is a blonde wig slicked back with a second stacked wig on the top. The separation is hidden by a matching rose headpiece. The look is finished off with a red high heel. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-uw5NMT7fH7ItYj4fJbscHPa8YsMaQ2ciXHGN813ROk/edit#
EVE’S CONFESSIONAL:Hello it’s me Eve Kennedy, that bitchy 1 from season 5. You might remember me for winning 2 challenges, being a double shante, & my infamous exit but don’t worry I’m here for the long haul this time. I’m just a bad bitch top looking for some other hoes to bottom. I wanna win.”
LU’S CONFESSIONAL: “This is really an All Stars cast. There’s a lot of pressure to do good, especially when I’m competing against queens like Eve and Creolla.”
MARIANNA’S CONFESSIONAL: “From the girls collected I immediately recognised several people: a) Anita, who is perhaps the strongest contender here and definitely the one to beat, b) Cass, who I've been friendly with since Season 3 and c) Eve who shat on me and Bella on Queens of Code and that kinda stained my perception of her. Whether we can get that resolved or not remains to be seen, but I'll be watching her with great interest. I’m the star of the show, okay, THE A-list extra.”
EVE’S CONFESSIONAL: “I wish Diana was here honestly cause she and I were kiki queens together. The girl who captured my attention most was Creolla, she had the most charisma of the girls that I’m just now meeting in this setting.”
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CS:GO heading towards possible in-game economy crash. This issue needs community and Valve attention.

Edit: This is on top since it was brought up in comments. There is no reason for panic yet. Even influx of so much duped items is not very significant in the grand scale of things. That's why trading community is raising alarm before it gets out of hand.
Edit 2: Here is tl;dr explanation why duping is bad with an example of how this would look like in real world, thanks to BitcoinBoo:
It's like the Federal Reserve printing $1 to replace each dollar stolen, instead of going after those who stole.
Edit 3: To elaborate on the "Why should I care part?" my example was just small part of the deal, and maybe not the best. Seems like people forget that CS:GO was pretty much dead before Arms Dealer update which introduced skins. Skins are the reason why game recovered. With "whales" gone, who will buy the keys to unbox stuff or use same keys to purchase high tier items that are over the Steam Market cap? Think about it for a minute FFS. The 1% is paying server and maintenance bills for you, as well as providing money for game updates. Just like in any other game with microtransaction, 1% provides 90%+ of revenue. CS:GO is just full priced game with F2P revenue model. With "whales" gone game will stagnate.
Original post:
So I know this sub is not focused on the economy aspect of CS:GO, but I think it get's much more traffic than /GlobalOffensiveTrade and probability of actual people who matter seeing this post is much higher.
On /GlobalOffensiveTrade this issue is brought up daily, but without any attention of community as a whole, there is little to no chance Valve will notice it.
Fairly recently Valve introduced ESCROW as a measure to mitigate scamming and highjacking of CS:GO accounts. Loopholes with "hacking" and reporting account as "hijacked" were being used before to essentially play Steam support into duping higher tier items that costed thousands of dollars.
With ESCROW introduction Valve said that they will no longer restore items lost without mobile authentication (either SMS or App) attached to the account. But that didn't work, after ESCROW introduction somehow group of people essentially duped hundreds of high tier items, such as FN M9 Sapphires (goes for around 1500USD), FN Dragon Lores (1500USD before the dupe wave, more on that later) and others. With investigation that went in /GlobalOffensiveTrade done by Freakesport he was able to track around 60 confirmed cases of same exact FN Dragon Lore duped in matter of couple of weeks. Therefor new loopholes were found or old ones are still working.
You can read about investigation here (you might not be able to open the link, if you don't have confirmed flair on subreddit): https://np.reddit.com/GlobalOffensiveTrade/comments/40dgeh/discussion_why_the_lores_are_dropping_and_why_you/
And that's just through gathering incomplete data from websites like CSGOExchange that only tracks certain accounts. I am sure the amount of duped items is much larger still in the inventories of private accounts. This recent dupe was done on the scale unseen before. Basically just counting only Dragon Lore dupes, at the very minimum CS:GO economy saw the influx of "free cash" i.e. duped skins of almost 100,000USD in extremely small time window. But that is just confirmed estimate of only Dragon Lores, if you consider that private accounts and hidden inventories, as well as users that never signed up for CSGOExchange being pretty much invisible. If you take all that in account as well as other other high tier items, you can easily see that that dupe wave probably injected more than 1,000,000USD worth of items into the economy. Which brings us to potential economy crash.
Returning back to the example of Dragon Lores, it brought price of FN Dragon Lores from ~1500USD down to 1300USD in just couple of weeks and it's still dropping with new dupes surfacing up. I have no doubt if high end items will crush, it will cause domino effect throughout whole in-game economy.
How does it affects me? I don't give two shits about skins
Well, you see, CS:GO became a huge spectacle, and a lot of influx of interest as well as cash into the game comes from betting and trading. With betting on sites like Lounge being as big as it is. Not only does it attract people who like to gamble, but it also attracts sponsors and makes those sites sponsor teams and events, making them bigger and more attractive for top talent in the scene as well as increasing overall production value.
See those OPSkins or CSGOLounge ads during stream? The sole business of those websites is based around well being of CS:GO economy. Without healthy economy those sites will crash and burn with it and no longer will be able to sponsor events and teams.
Valve should act as a governing entity in this case. Just like real world government would deal with people producing counterfeit currency. In the thread with investigation I linked before, Freakesport was able to trace back all those dupe to 2-3 common accounts in his free time using only third party tools like CSGOExchange. If he can do it, surely Valve can easily find people behind this and punish them and prevent any more duped items hidden away in private inventories being yet yet injected into the economy.
Same thing happened to DoTA2 and TF2 high tier items. While DoTA2 economy crush didn't affect game popularity much because of how big DoTA following is, I think economy crash of TF2 was one of the main reason of game fading into obscurity.
If you think CS:GO is immune and that's it won't happen to it, just few years ago CS scene was almost dead, including CS:GO. Do you think that Arms Deal update was a coincidence that it was released just before the resurgence of CS popularity? Certainly this won't help it.
P.S. Sorry for wall of text, but it's necessary to explain the situation going on. Thanks for your time if you got through it.
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BestSkinDeals - A new Skin Market to safely Buy and Sell Skins

Hi /csgobetting
today I'm excited to show you my project I have been doing for the past months. With BestSkinDeals I wanted to create a Skin Market with features which other sites may not have, or make them better. http://BestSkinDeals.com/ is a Skin Market where you can Buy and Sell skins, its nothing groundbreaking new but just in a bit other way. The Website has been operational now for a bit over a Month.
What unique features do we bring to the table?
http://i.imgur.com/r1aLocy.png
Stats from the site until now
Please keep in mind that the most concurrent users the site had to handle until now was 6 and the website was online for just a bit over a Month(bug are possible), it could happen that the website could be slow or bots fail, but should any Issue occur then please report it here or make a support ticket so we can fix it as quick as possible :) We upgraded the servers before this Announcement to lower the chances of a downtime.
I could appear that some bots throw "Bot is Offline error" this is due to the low traffic on the site which causes the bots after a few hours inactivity to go offline. As soon you get this error message wait around 120 sec and the bot should "wake up" again.
But before I talk too much try out the website out http://BestSkinDeals.com/ and let us know your experience and feedback.
Official Twitter: https://twitter.com/BestSkinDeals Official Subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/BestSkinDeals Official Steam group: https://steamcommunity.com/groups/BestSkinDeals Our Trading Bots: https://steamcommunity.com/groups/BestSkinDeals-Bots
We are looking forward to the future to and are aiming to deliver the best User experience as possible.
Edit: It seems that the Current Online users is broken, it always shows 1. I will look what the issue is and fix with the next Release.
Edit2: I got asked why should people use my site. Its not intended only to cashout your skins for real money, due to the low fees people can use the site also to trade in a way, sell the skins you don't like and buy an another one. Steam Market would take 15%.
Edit3: Its now 3:45 AM here and I'm now off to bed. I will as soon I wake up reply to your questions (Probably around 1PM CEST). Thanks everyone for the big feedback list I was already able to identify many unknown bugs/issues as well looking to implement new features :)
Thanks
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Bookie.GG - A new means of CS:GO Betting

What is Bookie.GG?
Bookie.GG is a CS:GO betting website that is dedicated to ensuring that all users have the best experience possible with betting skins.
We have been working closely with many people experienced with the CS:GO betting scene to ensure that we can give everyone a quality client for betting CS:GO skins.
Our secondary goal is to develop a community where people can bet on matches, and to also have civilized yet enjoyable discussions on the forums. Join us in our Teamspeak 3 for realtime support, as well as any general discussion.
We are looking to receive valuable feedback from the community during our closed beta, this ensures all future updates are adding features that community members want and deserve.
Features:
• Item Draft System - similar to previous websites like CS:GO Lounge; you will be able to directly bet your skins on matches. We limit you to bet 10 items per match at a cap of $60 per item. We do not accept ANY knives, or items from newer collections.
• “Bank” - We allow you to store up to 20 items in our system that you may constantly use to bet. These items will allow you to bet without having to open a trade offer with a bot every time. These items will NOT be liable to be removed if you do not claim them, this means they won't be removed at any point in time. They are in our inventory to make your lives easier.
• Mobile Use: One of the biggest issues people have with websites similar to CS:GO Lounge or any other competitor is the ability to use it on a mobile device. We have successfully created a fully responsive system that will allow bettors to easily use the website on their mobile phones and tablets whereever, and whenever they want. This in turn, allows you to bet on the go. We are also working with the 1HP App guys to create a mobile application for Bookie.GG
• Forums - We believe the only way to maintain a great forum system is by having a third party manage the forums for us. We currently have a staff team hired to moderate the forums and ensure that all rules are being enforced. This allows everyone to have a discussion on the forums without fear that the Bookie.GG admins will delete posts if they feel like your complaints are unwarranted.
Staff:
Kaisar - Owner and Head Administrator
TranceAddicted - Legal Adviser
Wreckton - Moderator
Jpon9 - Moderator
Teb - Lead Developer
Komplex - Developer
We have plans to expand our staff team in any branch if needed, if the volume given in this website increases to an extent in which we feel like it is necessary in the future.
Lastly, we are currently looking for developers who can code in the PHP Laravel language, or are familiar with the Steam.API, please forward all inquiries to [email protected] (We are not currently seeking any Administrators or Moderator positions.)
To sign up for our closed Beta please visit http://Bookie.GG/ and fill out the form. We’re looking forward to delivering quality betting services.
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Nostalgia Thoughts and feels on the game from a 3k+ hours player.

Hello /GlobalOffensive! I just want to say that this is my opinion and you can agree or disagree freely. Prepare for wall of text.
SO where do I start? Cs right now is dogsht. You cannot disagree with that. While other games like Fortnite even Pubg or Dota get updates new things like weapons dota has a Battle pass etc. In cs:go we dont get anything because valve is a total joke of a company. Lets look at dota: Dota gets new heroes updates balance changes Skins for the heroes UI skins Map skins Emotes A FING BATTLE PASS etc etc etc. Cs gets: maybe an update every 2-3 months that has a new case with skins so the kids can be happy and ask their mother for money to open cases? Maybe we get 5 sentence bug fix and a few changes here and there but nothing that matters that much? TOTAL JOKE. There is 0000000000000000 no not even 0 sry -1 progress in this game. Instead of valve fixing the game adding a new operation that will make players play the actual game not 3h of co-op vs bots. Instead of fixing all the stupid sht made for silver trashes they gives us new skins and ... a new ui... WOOOOOOO GAME IS GOOD GUYS LETS JUMP BACK IN. NO. |||||IMO||||| Screw the UI. The core gameplay is trash. Here are my reasons: 1. Jumping and moving accuracy - Cs used to be a game of skill and reaction time. Where game knowledge was key. Now you just buy pistol or smg and run like a ret*** and just jump around and shoot which is soo much fun. Its so much fun trying to enter a site and getting killed by some guy that u see only his shoulder and he just shoots u because a 500$ pistol is more accurate and stronger than a 2.7k$ weapon. THAT IS A TOTAL PARODY. And seeing people jump around with awps hitting shots and sh*t is horrendous. IMO movement accuracy and jumping accuracy should be nurfed to hell so people dont buy five sevens or mp7 or ump and just run around making themselves impossible to hit and at the same time landing every bullet because cs=Cod i guess.
  1. Valve doesnt care - The sound changes were and still are sh*t idc what anyone says i would instantly buy old sounds if i could.And when u have stuff like the r9 hackers running wild does it look like valve even cares? Dota gets all these cool things even SOURCE 2 and we get.. new ui... WOOOOOO WEEEEEE NICE VOLVO TOP NOTCH UPDATES FAM. Its embarrassing how gabe makes millions upon millions upon millions and the fat shrek looking mfker doesnt want to fix this game.
  2. Community and Pro Scene- I mean lets be honest if u are in the Eu region if u are not playing with 5 pre u are basically throwing a coin and if u its lands head u get 50/50 normal team but if it lands tails u get Ruskies polaks or w/e who dont know the colors in english but still yell at u when they are agent 0-0-7. Another thing that pisses me of when these trashes do 0 dmg with normal weapons and when they get a deagle or smg or five seven they just spray and hit random shots and kill you. Especially with the deagle. Its pathetic. The pro scene... its ... its dead lets be honest. I used to love it seeing all these team battle it out all these cool pro players and now when i go into hltv i see... what random nobodies. I used to love sitting in teamspeak with my friends watching Efrag or Gplay or whatever their name was at the time (you know the best Bulgarian team) just sitting betting in cs go lounge yelling at them watching what they do and how they do it. And then in the majors watching even better players and teams like EnvyUs LDLC Fnatic etc. Now everyone has gotten new players and all the cool players are ... just split up somewhere.. its just sad for me that i will never get those time of CSGO lounge back watching my team spamming "TAKE MY ENERGY NOT MY SKINS" and then winning betting more or keeping them it was .. it was a different time.
In Conclusion Valve really doesnt care. If they want to fix this game they can do so in a few hours. Just get the best and smartest players who know what this game is and supposed to be, put them in a room and ask them: OK GUYS HOW DOES WE FIX?? Like get summmit Shroud Olof Pasha everyone(Sry i cant listen them all), get like 10-15-20 who cares get them and ask them that question and they will do the job for you. After that release as many skins as u want ill gladly buy the case and open it if im playing the game. Instead we get people going to pubg and fortnite. Cs used to be a game about skill no ads no run and gun no bs just teamplay map and game knowledge, Game sense and reactions. Now its run and gun no progress no incentive to play the game. Instead Valve could at least gives us unranked 5v5 to practice or premade team v team ranked 5v5. OR AN OPERATION? They could make the operation mission to be: Play comp games play Dm games again not a 3h bot campaing. And dont make it short. Make it long and gives u more drops. U screwed up the trading anyway who cares let us have some fun and luck to get some skins you know. That way more people will come back and they will have something to progress to and play for. I reached global and im done with mm. I was done with it a long time ago. Now 90% of the time im on faceit at least there I have ranks to climb etc. Ohh and can we agree on something? There needs to be a season/rank reset and new ranks to be added. There just needs to be. And still while playing faceit I get hackers. How do i know they are hackers even tho I have anticheat and half the lobby does too?? Simple my friend has a hack too and when we are curious if they have a hack he just turns it on and sees him aiming at us from ct base and prefireing like crazy because he has wh. So not its not about getting gud.
Please valve do something. This was the best competitive FPS game and now it went to sh*t because u are lazy and dont wanna listen to the community or do anything! You dont even have to do much just fix running/jumping and gunning. Dont let people just spray the deagle and get lucky shots like its fortnite and there is bloom. PLEASE FIX THAT. PLease. And give us back the old awp movement speed. Just listen to the pros for once get them and ask them for help. They will fix the game for you and after that u will see cs go rise on top of dota in the steam stats. Players will come back and you can give us a reason to play mm.
With much love. A lost fan of your game that still plays from time to time and has spend too much time in your game.
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[PSA] Flux's guide to CS:GO trading and how to do other things good too.

Hello /globaloffensivetrade,
While I am fairly new to the cs:go trading scene, I have a fair amount of past experience TF2 trading, as well as a few other games, and thus have learnt through a bit of luck and experience how to make profit. I get asked questions multiple times a day about some of these trading basics, and you guys seemed quite keen, so I've decided to write this guide. I spent a lot of time and effort on this, so I would appreciate your feedback and feel free to point out any obvious mistakes. If nothing else, read the bolded and italicised parts.
About me:
I've been trading in cs:go for about 3-4 months now, and used to trade heavily in TF2 before cashing out my money and investing it into csgo. I've probably put in around ~$1500 from that and have cashed out about $15000, and still have a [fairly decent inventory](#). Before we get to the part on how I did this, we need to start from the beginning.
Introduction:
When starting to trade, it is a good idea to have an idea what you want. Whether you want to get a particular skin or knife, or earn a living, or just have fun will direct how you might want to trade. I personally trade for fun, but as it turns out making a profit can be quite fun. There is already a good guide to the basics of trading here, and I will try not to reiterate this, but instead explain some more practical details. I recommend you read this if you are completely new to csgo/trading.
Some 'tools' of the trade:
These are sites or tools which are handy to bookmark, check regularly or use.
Trading sites:
Everybody knows Csgo lounge or Csgl, and that it can be quite the hive of scumbag and villany, however due to its high traffic flow, is probably one of the best media to trade.
(Will add more here if I discover more good trading sites)
Pricing Sites:
For most items that the average trader deals with, the price can be looked up quite well at www.steamanalyst.com. Now it is important to know that this is the 'market price' and is not the same as its cash value. When dealing with the steam marketplace, keys take a value of $2.5 USD, and thus the price of skins in keys is their market price / 2.5. Keys are the primary currency of csgo trading and are known as 'pure' offers. Cash value of items is their key value x $1.8-1.9. Offering a 5 key skin is not the same as offering 5 keys as a 5 dollar note isn't the same as 5 dollars worth of groceries. Other sites such as csgo stash also has similar information.
Pricing for items above market price requires some knowledge and experience. People such as elowynoceania have setup a steam group to price check some of these items and has also written a rough price list found here. A handful of people on this subreddit are also experience in price checking (and I will add a list here of any who are willing; send me a message).
Price checkers (with specialty):
**It seems that most people I've listed have stopped price checking. If you are willing to help, please pm me with your steamURL and/or specialty with regards to price checking.
Pricing for knives and skins can vary on their look, even skins of the same type with the same condition may be worth very different. And somewhat strangely, prices of identically looking skins/knives can be very different if they have different conditions.
Browser extensions:
This list was compiled by etherfast here, but I'll copy paste it for convenience. These are incredibly helpful and have streamlined my trading experience, saving me a lot of time and effort.
While I get these two nice weeks off, I thought about putting some time into helping you guys improve your trading experience.
Before I make my list, I want to stress this out that these are mostly for Chrome users. If you have no reason not to switch to Chrome, you should do it. Some of the extensions have Firefox versions as well, but not all of them.
1. Enhanced Steam
This is a nice extension that isn't necessarily related to trading, but it enhances your Steam experience. This is by far the most complex Steam extension, and the list of features is endless
2. Lounge Companion (Dota 2 & CS:GO) No longer allowed on csgl
This will make your CSGL experience better, by allowing you to price check items on the fly and helping you bet easier.
3. Reddit Enhancement Suite
This is well known and it will improve your Reddit Experience and once you try it, you won't be able to live without it. Once again, the features are endless.
4. Reddit Trading Flair Linker Enhanced
This extends people's flairs when you browse the subreddit. It's really nice because it gives you a clickable Steam link, points out any privacy/VAC Bans/Trade bans and tells you if the person is online or playing anything.
5. Steam Community SteamRep Integration
This will highlight profiles banned on SteamRep for you. It doesn't take into account the pending reports, so you might want to do that check yourself. But when that box turns red, you know it's a good warning sign.
6. Steam item search between friends.
This helps you find that specific friend of yours that has that nice Bayonet you want. It loads all of your friends' inventories locally and it makes them searchable. It takes a bit of time to preload, but it's a good alternative to searching through inventories yourself.
7. Decline Unavailable Trade Offers (credit to hohchu, and more)
This helps you dismiss that annoying green envelope that sticks to you when a trade offer is unavailable.
How to start trading?
Now you've bookmarked all those sites I've linked, and read the guides and downloaded all the plugins, what now? Well first in any business, you need to invest something in order to make something, there is no two ways about it. A decent investment (at least $100) will allow you to start trading decently. I recommend the best route to do this is by buying keys off people who are reputable on this subreddit, who sell for around $1.8-2. This is best done via paypal, and will be initially a slow, difficult process as you will have no reputation or rep at this point. You may even want to buy keys off the steam store, however note that these may not be immediately tradeable depending on your payment method. Once you have the keys, look around on the subreddit, csgl, play the game and generally immerse yourself in the community. This will give you some idea of what things are valuable and demanded. Skins which look nice are generally worth more than skins that aren't as nice. Betting skins, such as the AK Redline FT, AWP Asiimov FT, etc tend to be easier to sell just before a tournament, and easier to buy just after.
Once you have a good grasp of what is valued, start making a few trades. Add or message people and offer your keys on their items, and then if they say yes, try selling it for a bit more and voila you have just made your first bit of profit. Now I will go much further in depth later on, but this is the gist of it.
How to gain reputation?
It can be very difficult to gain rep as a beginning trader. There is the catch-22 where people won't sell you things for cash because you don't have rep, and thus you can't get any rep. However, it is very possible to get rep if you present yourself right.
Firstly it helps to have a decently set up steam account. Private profiles are strongly discouraged and most people won't even add you. Private inventories may also be an issue to people. Having an older account and/or a steam level above 2-3 will also make things a bit smoother, as people realise you have invested some time/effort/money into your steam account. As an example I will use my profile. I have a prominently displayed 6 year of service badge. I am level 33, which means I have invested a fair amount of money into my steam account, and I have a lot of hours of a variety of games as well as a lot of +rep comments on my profile. It may even be good to put the country you are from on your profile, given that eastern european accounts have a relatively high rate of scammers, and some people will be more comfortable trading you if you are in their country. Now on the flipside, lacking these things may lead to suspicion of being a possible scammer.
Secondly, being a generally mature and polite person will build more trust with anybody dealing with you. Being aggressive, abusive or seeming illiterate are red flags which may suggest that you are not a trustworthy person. I personally refuse to accept accidental trade offers which they have put none of my items in, and constantly strive to be an honest trader and to not take advantage of people. Now, these things aren't necessary, but being this kind of person will generally help you overall in trading as well as life.
To get meaningful rep for cash trades, you need to setup a thread that isn't your profile, as your profile is not monitored by anybody but yourself. Accusations of scamming can be deleted and +reps can be faked by friends on your profile. So set up a thread here on the steam group: CS:GO Rep. Feel free to copy my setup here but insert your own information which can be found by searching your steamURL on steamrep. Once you've done that, make sure you get the people you trade with to leave a message regarding the trade on your thread, so keep that link handy (I have mine linked on my steam profile).
Now probably the easiest way to do this is to buy a few keys off the steam market, and then sell them to people who have a lot of rep. You will lose some money initially, but you will gain some all-important rep, and will soon be able to buy keys for cash. Doing multiple small transactions is the best way to build rep initially. Selling a few keys here and there, and buying a few will start to fill out your thread.
How to screen people as potential scammers?
There is already a very helpful guide on how to avoid common scams here and here. The most definitive way to tell somebody is a scammer, is if they've done it before and been reported for it. Before doing ANY trade, search their steamURL in www.steamrep.com. A person who is a scammer will have a red outline and it will say 'banned' and will explain why. People who have an orange border with 'x number of reports filed' are generally scammers as well, and I strongly suggest you do NOT trade with either of these types of people.
For people who are scammers-to-be, red flags include:
  • Impersonating another account
  • Low amount of hours/few games
  • New steam account/low steam level
  • Private profile
  • Private inventory/not valuable
  • Not many comments
  • Russian, Romanian or even Italian, or named laska (sounds racist, but the majority of scammers I've met were either of these)
1:58 AM - laskerZ: razizt guide 0/10
1:59 AM - Horrorshow Flux: hahaha
1:59 AM - laskerZ: I'm hugely offended by it. As an Eastern-European, I DEMAND IT TO BE REMOVED
  • Young, immature (<15 years old) - don't really understand the results of their actions
  • Overly keen, impatient to receive your item, offer to pay more than your buyout
  • Know a lot about how cash trading works without having any rep (though some people may have experience in ebay trades, etc and can be trusted)
  • Suspicious in any way (if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is)
Basically if they don't have much to lose, often they will be more likely to scam. People with established names and profiles and inventories have much more to lose and so can be more trustworthy. If I were ever to scam, my lost reputation would be more costly in the long run than any single deal, not that is my only reason I don't scam, just to mention another, I'm not an asshole.
How to cash trade?
Typically paypal is used in most cash trades, being the most convenient generally. Skrill or BTC (bitcoin) can also be used, but I don't personally have much experience in either of these. Typically how trades are done is the buyer will send a money payment as family and friends and pay any fees to the seller, and once the money is confirmed to be received, the seller will send a trade. This method is still possible to be chargebacked, do not listen to anybody who tells you otherwise. Note some countries don't have this option. A middleman can be used, who can be found here, and will hold on to the item before the buyer pays, and will only trade to the buyer once they confirm the seller has received the money. This prevents direct scams, but offers no protection for chargebacks. Chargebacks are the main reason I require people to have rep before dealing in cash with them.
How to setup a neat table for a reddit post?
Easy, just copy what I've done here:
|Type|Skin|Wear|Comment/Screenshots|Current Offer|Buyout|
|:----------|:----------|:----------|:----------|:----------|:-------|:-------|
|Knife|Butterfly Night|FT|Clean looking|None|95k
Now for the big buck item: How to make profit?
The secret to profit is high volume, small profit trades. I will outline how my strategy works below, but it is not necessary to read to make profit, skimming the paragraphs and reading the TL;DR at the bottom should be sufficient. The classic 'buy low, sell high' advice is only partially true. I see so many people trying to sell high and never getting any trades. It really should be 'buy low, sell market'.
Buying items:
It is important to understand a sellers' psychology, in order to understand how to get good deals. First of all you have to buy an item. You do this by exposing yourself to the market as long as possible to find good deals. Post on multiple cs:go/reddit trades, frequently browsing the new section. If you are to offer on a trade, if you are paying pure keys, feel free to offer a little bit less than market price or their buyout (yet still reasonable), so there is a profit margin for you. If you do it in the right manner, more often than not, people are often flexible enough to accept their price, since a reasonable guy with a reasonable price is a good person to trade with. If you offer skins, people more often than not will not value skin offers as highly as keys (though there are exceptions).
Selling items for a profit:
Note that this is more of an explanation of maximum profit, and is a little bit unnecessary to actually profit.
When selling an item you need to understand buyer's psychology and some basic statistics (OH NO THE HORROR!). They want to do either of two things with the item: Use it it or sell it, roughly I'd say the proportions respectively of these people are 1:4. When I say they want to use the item, I mean usually they want to play with it. Thus they are willing to pay full price (FP) or a little bit more (FP + 1 arbitrary unit). The arbitrary unit (AU) can be anything; a dollar, a key, etc and is tied to the value of the item, often around 5%. It is basically your profit margin for most items. Occasionally users will be willing to pay slightly higher than full price, but it isn't enough to rely on the small proportion who do for most of your profits.
Then there are those looking for a profit. Thus they will often be paying a low price (FP - 2 ~ FP - 1). If you have bought it for fairly cheap (=< FP - 2) then you can easily flip it to these people for FP - 1 for at least an AU profit. What price you bought it for may determine whether or not you sell to a specific type of buyer. If you paid full price (FP) then you price your item at > FP + 1 and search for the small proportion of people who are willing to pay more. I have found that the mean price of items if you pay keys is FP - 1, with a standard deviation of 1 AU. I found it optimal to focus on buying items at the price of FP - 1 ~ FP - 2. Thus at the highest range of your buying, you make a profit from 20% of the population, and at the lower end you make it from almost 100% of the population. Of course these numbers are highly speculative.
Here's a graphical explanation for what I am saying. This graph represents roughly the market for items. I am suggesting that you buy at FP - 1 and Sell at FP for maximal consistent profit, as in this picture, where the pink is your sweet sweet profit, basically the crux of my entire guide, not only this is profitable, it is very stable and consistent and safe profits (with the notable exception of new items, which don't have a fixed FP).
TLDR; Buy highly demanded items for under the market price, and sell for market price or slightly below for maximum profit/time.
Cutting your losses/How to get unstuck as a trader?
Sometimes you will find yourself with an item which should be worth x, but you aren't getting offers near it. Maybe you got ripped off, or it has suddenly dropped in price. This is when you cut your losses. Moping over your loss won't help you earn more and will keep you stuck at your current value. Don't be too attached to your items, unless you have already gotten your 'dream knife', so why would you even be reading this :P?
Profit is based exponentially on what you have, i.e. the more you have, the more you profit you make. Thus it is often better to quickly sell some items in order to increase your total currency value (even at a loss of your theoretical currency/market value) as having currency allows you to make more profit than that damn StatTrak Butterfly Boreal Forest FT. You should try and sell at FP - 2, or sell it on the market.
The potential future profit will eventually cover the losses incurred by this trade. This ensures a smooth flow of items in and out of your inventory, allowing for maximum profit.
Selling Strategies:
Generally skins are easier to sell, but have smaller profit margins, and knives are more profitable, but move a lot slower. Hence I will explain how I sell items, and recommend you do the same. Basically lets say you have some skins and knives. What your goal should be, if you want to make profit, is to eventually convert all these skins and knives into currency like keys or cash. How you do this is to downgrade. Downgrading is trading for slightly less desirable/valuable items alongside currency.
What would be optimal is that someone will offer your buyout in keys, however this rarely happens (and is often leading to a scam attempt), so you need to take a relatively big item, and break it down into smallemore liquid bits. When you are offered items, take an offer that is similar in value if it has highly liquid items (such as betting skins, keys, vanilla knives, cheap 'entry level' knives around ~20-30k) over an 'overpay' offer of something that is hard to sell (stat-trak low tier knives, battle-scarred high tier knives, case hardeneds). It is often easier to sell two low-mid tier knives than one high tier knife.
People who trade at a lower level, I suggest you upgrade, like trade two $1.25 skins for $2.50 one, as then you can trade for a key and possibly buy a $3 item, etc. The way I actually see it is like nuclear fusion/fission, just an analogy for you physics and chem nerds :3. Elements which are heavy release energy when split by fission (trade expensive items into multiple cheaper items), and elemental which are light, gain energy by fusion (trade a few cheap items into a reasonable item).
When trading an item with a high variance in price, you want to be moving towards either end. I'll give an example. A Karambit Fade FN with 60% purple/40% pink goes for around 250k. This is highly demanded as it's the cheapest you can get of the item. A Kara Fade with 90% Pink/10% yellow goes for ~500 keys and is also highly demanded as it's the best you can get. So if you had a Kara Fade 80/15/5 (~320k), you would want to downgrade to a 60/40 + 70 keys and if you had a 90/7/3 (~450k) you would want to upgrade to a 90/10. This concept mainly applies for fades, but can also be used in other patterns.
Conclusion:
Damn I just wrote that in one sitting, start to finish. If only I had the motivation for my uni work. Feel free to share this guide with your friends and fellow traders.
Peace,
Horrorshow Flux
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[Discussion]How I got two knives starting with one, aka the journey of my first month of trading.

How I got two knives starting with one.

Hello there Reddit !
 
First of all, sorry about my english, I'm french but I'll do my best.
 
I started the trading game almost a month ago (2015/10/17) and I wanted to share my story with you about how I managed to get twice as much as what I began with.
 
You can see that as a guide, statistic post, or just enjoy the reading !

How I entered the trade game

Well, a month ago or so, Vulcun started to put CS:GO skins as a reward of some of their fantasy bets. The first fantasy bet with a skin as winning was 1$ entry, 300 participants, and a Butternilla as a reward. You have to know that on Vulcun, you can fantasy bet on several FREE contest per day and win 0.03$ per bet. So, basically, I didn't spend anything to enter this contest.
 
Long story short, you got it, I won the first Knife on Vulcun Fantasy.
 
I was talking with my teammates about Key Trading for a while, and I decided to give it a go.

Getting prepared

First of all, I searched for a [Q] thread here asking for help for beginners, saw a post, and saw some guy answering very nicely, so I decided to send him a PM. This was probably my best idea. Snake57 was really helpful for helping me get into the Trade Game : Nice, patient, giving a lot of infos, he helped me so much, with a lot of humility. For example, this is A GLIMPSE of his first answer, and he was sorry about bad formatting and so few details. He helped me a lot about what to avoid, basic scams, Add-ons to install, etc.
 
I spent a few days watching Lounge and Reddit to get used to the trade game. Trying to find good items, bad items, items to avoid and items to get. I started what would be the heart of my journey : a spreadsheet, where I would put prices of item to get, evolution of items, etc. Don't mind the prices they are not all up to date.

Going in !

So I had a basic way of thinking at first : Buy on reddit, sell on Lounge, be patient, but don't let items rot in your inventory. As I saw the scene in the beginning, it was : "Lounge is a place full of highballers, and reddit is the stable place. Focus on getting good prices on Reddit and profit on Lounge".
 
So I put my butternilla on Reddit, and got an AMAZING offer in a day. To be fair, I feared it was a scam and ask my sensei for help, but ended up accepted before his answer. This was 25 days ago, and it got me hooked.
 
I started my trades spreadsheet to keep a trace of what I got and what I bought. So, let's go with the stats now !

Statistics

I wont go through everytrade, but let's show the evolution of my keys ! I kept trace of everytime I got only pure keys, just to plot the result.
Here it is
As you can see, the plot is going slightly higher in curve, meaning that if I keep going at this pace, I might get higher profits as time go by.
An other plot : Key profit amount per trade. This is the difference between how much I earned and how much I spent for every Item I bought with keys and sold with keys (in one step or two - aka downgrading).
Here it is
I excluded the first trade as such a huge profit was messing with the scale and quite unconventionnal. As you can see, most of the trades where 1K profit. I think this could go higher as my keypool goes higher.
 
Some pure stats now, as a list :
 
I started with one butternilla. 25 days after, I have :

Things I learned, and what I changed during my journey

I started as
Now I'm more
I found out that there are a lot of very good offers on Lounge, but you have to find them. I focused, at the middle of my journey, mostly on maxbets. So, I made custom searches, on several favorite tabs, and every once in a while, I launch them all, and try to find quicksells. Then I sell them on Lounge AND Reddit. If I don't find any buyer, before lowering my price, I spend some time on Lounge trying to find buyers from my item (even if 99% are quickbuyers lowballing way too much - Ooooh, Lounge.)

Lounge / Reddit / CSGO Traders pros and cons

Reddit
Pros
3 posts per day, no bump. Clarity.
Amazing people, 90% of posts and answers are respectful compared to Lounge
Fast answers and rules for respecting b/o sent
Scam proof
Possibility to PM people
Cons
3 posts per day, no bump. Yeah, is a pro and a con.
90% of posts are at 90-100 Market Price, 5% are profit worthy, 5% are way over Market Price or false quicksells.
Lounge
Pros
Sometimes really, really good offers.
Lot of people.
Cons
20% scam
85% Highball
4% retracting
0.99% normal trades.
0.01% good offers
Auto-Bump. This is painful.
CSGO Traders
Pros
It's Empty.
Cons
It's Empty.
 
If you plan to go my way, buying on Lounge, be Prepared, this is mostly how it goes every time.
 
You have to have nerves of steel to buy there, but you will find the best offers.

Conclusion, and what's next ?

This is kind of a drug. I felt like I spent maybe too much time lurking on reddit and Lounge, and less time worling on my game (learning new strats, nads, etc). And working on the game missed me. I will probably lower the pace, spending less time on trading for the next month.
 
What I would like to do is continue at this pace with lowering my time spent here. This means that the profit curve might slightly drop down, but I would still continue to profit. I don't belive in 1 month = 2 knives, so 2 months = 4 knives. As I focus on special items, my goal for now is 1 month = 2 knives, 2 months = 3 knives, etc.
 
I see more a linear profit curve, so I will continue to profit while lowering my time investment.
 
Trading is really interesting, really frustrating, and joyful at the same time. Kind of like betting, but without loosing anything. If this thread get some good feedbacks, I might do one every month ! :)

Ask me anything

Please do, it will be a pleasure to help !
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[PSA] Updated - An Advanced Guide in the World of Trading

This is quite long, so if you find it easier feel free to read the guide here

Introduction

Hey guys, my name is Transfer also know as the_only_luke. After a long long time of gathering information I have finally decided it is time to release my new guide - a more in depth guide on how to trade in Counter-Strike: Global Offensive.
Hopefully I will cover every possible aspect of the trading life, from entrepreneurial skills all the way on how not to get scammed. I will post my recommendations and simple ways in order to become a successful trader.

A little about me

My name is Luke and I have been trading for over 1 year. I have managed to turn over an enormous profit and continuing to do so . I'm 18 year of age and live in the UK. After a couple of weeks of playing CS:GO I quite liked it and bought my very first skin, an AK-47 Redline FT. I had no intention in trading it or making tons of profit (or even knew i could trade), I just wanted it to have a cooler ak.
My friend introduced me to a betting site called csgolounge, that I found out (after a couple days) that you can trade on it. My first post was just a joke really, it was my ak redline for any m4 asiimov (BS/WW/FT). I then waited for over a week and eventually traded it for a m4 asiimov ww then traded the m4 for a gut safari mesh and traded all the way up to where I am now (feel free to check out my inv).
I have previously made a basic guide on how to trade but finally I have got around to writing an in depth one.
Some of you may know me for the team wallpapers I made on reddit:
If you have any questions feel free to comment below. If you would like to speak to me personally feel free to add me on steam (be sure to comment on my profile before adding me).

What is an Entrepreneur?

Let us begin with a definition "An entrepreneur is a person who sets up a business, taking on financial risks in the hope of profit"
Some people think of entrepreneurs as people who are willing to take risks that other people are not. Others define them as people who start and build successful businesses.
Taking the first of the two, the risk would be the money invested or the items that you have traded for. Taking the second of the two, success is measured by profit.
Regardless of how you define an "entrepreneur," one thing is certain: becoming a successful entrepreneur isn't easy... and hopefully this guide will help increase your chances of success.

Entrepreneurial Skills

I am able to identify the skills I believe are necessary in order to become successful. You may not need all these skills, however the more you have probably the easier it will be to turn over a profit.

Setting a Goal

Before entering the trading scene it would be a good idea to determine your goal. A goal is something that you hope to achieve by the end of trading. It could be a specific item or loadout, make money, or to just have fun and meet new people. No option is wrong, and no option is the best; it just comes down to you.

Common Websites

Investment

First things first, we are going to need to determine an investment. An investment is an item that is purchased with the hope that it will generate income or appreciate in the future. In an economic sense, an investment is the purchase of goods that are not consumed today but are used in the future to create wealth. In finance, an investment is a monetary asset purchased with the idea that the asset will provide income in the future or appreciate and be sold at a higher price. Obviously the more money you invest the easier it will to generate a reasonable profit.
If you are one of few people who were lucky to unbox something worth a lot then you can skip this step.
Once you have decided how much you want to invest you will need to decide what you will buy with the money. You can buy keys for $2.1 from people using paypal, or you can just decide to buy a starting skin/knife.

Useful Definitions

Trading

Buying - A good way to begin making profit it to buy items at quicksell prices. Quicksell means buying something for less than it's market value. Try to avoid paying the market price for any item unless it is a particular pattern on a knife. Don’t be impatient and keep your cool. If a seller won’t negotiate, shop around for other sellers of the same items. Usually people will quicksell items if your offering in pure keys. To determine the price of an item in keys simply divide it's market value by the price of keys in currency. For example, if an AWP Asiimov FT costs £28 and keys cost £1.7 then the market price of an AWP would be 16.5 Keys.
Selling - Try to sell your items around 1-5 keys more than you bought it for. Remember, if you attempt to sell for too much then you’re less likely to attract a buyer, especially if there’s a lot of the items you’re selling. If you struggle to sell an item reduce the selling price gradually down.

CSGOLounge

CS:GO Lounge is undeniably the most popular source for trading & betting.
Setting Up
First things first, we are going to have to log in. Csgolounge uses your steam login in order to gather your steamid, trade url, and current skins. To log in simply the "sign in through steam" button
To check that you are logging into the correct website & not a phishing link, just look up at the url and if it begins with HTTPS and/or contains a little padlock icon then you will be signing in securely through steam. like so
Once logged in, we will need to connect our "Steam Trade URL". We can do this by going to the "My Profile" tab and pressing "Steam Trade URL".
We then need to copy & paste our Trade URL into the designated section and press "Add URL"
Let's Begin Trading
Now that we have logged in it's time to begin trading. First we will need to choose an item we want to trade and then find items we want. We can do this simply by searching for items worth a little more than the market price of the item we want to trade. In this tutorial I will be trading my USP-S Orion FN ST.
To quickly check the value of an item I would recommend Steam Inventory Helper. It allows you to check the price of your item, or anyone else's directly from the inventory section.
Looking at the USP we can see it is worth £49.86 and I have used a Key worth £1.70 as a vector. A vector shows how much an item is worth in terms of another. By pressing the price, Steam Inventory Helper will link you to the item's steam market page. Here we can view the Sales Graph in order to determine whether or not our item is stable. Taking a look at the graph we can see that our item has a steady price ranging between £45-£50. It is worth noting that stattrak items, and BS/WW items usually have an unstable price due to their demand being lower than their better wears.
We then have to find items that we would like to trade our USP for. We can do this by ordering the csgo market by the lowest price and finding the USP in the list. An easy way to change the page is to edit the url. Simply change the "1" in "p1" to a higher number.
Once we have found the USP we just need to simply pick items worth a slightly higher amount
Now that we have found the items we want, we can head back over to csgolounge. By pressing the "Add Trade" tab we can now select our item and use the search bar on the right to find the items we want.
As you can see I have added a description to my trade. I have stated my B/O. Different people have different ways to determine their B/O, I tend to look at the market price and take a key or two away.
In order to see the price of the items, I am using an add on called Lounge Destroyer
Remember to bump your trades every 30 minutes or donate to csgolounge to unlock autobump (recommended)
Searching
Now that we have posted our trade(s) we can search for the items we want an offer people our item.
Simply press the "Search" tab and select an item you are looking for, then press search and you will find people looking to trade their item. For a more specific search you can also add your item to find people looking to trade for your item.

Quickselling

There is a lot of miscommunication with the term "quickselling" and hopefully I will try to clear it up. Most people believe a quicksell is determined by how low an item is priced below market price, usually believed to be 85%. If i reduce the price of an item enough so that demand will rise, then I am quickselling. You don't need to make something 85% to be a quicksell, aslong as it is below the price that the usual consumer is usually willing to pay then it will sell very fast. A good example is the AWP Asiimov FT, a very popular weapon. The AWP costs £29 and keys cost £1.7 then the market price of an AWP would be 16.5 Keys, however the usual asking price is 16k since that is the price the consumers are willing to pay. If someone were to sell the AWP for any lower then it will more than likely sell instantly.
Search up Price Elasticity if you want some more details.

Patience

When trading don't get attached to an item, always make profit. Constantly check market for fluctuations in prices that you can take advantage of. Patience, patience & more patience don't worry about having the same item for almost a week, good things come to those who wait. What really makes or breaks a trader is how long he is willing to wait for a deal. Some items may take time to sell, and that’s the hard truth.

Reputation

"Your reputation is vital for trading. Maybe not so much when you’re starting up but an absolute necessity when trading for higher value items. Don’t be afraid to ask for ‘+rep’ when you’ve completed a trade. Bear this in mind for the future if you’re starting out. Experienced traders will know this only too well. Be polite with fellow traders and stay on good terms regardless of the outcome of your trade. You never know if might meet the trader again and good friends are a major advantage when it comes to trading. Build up your reputation on your Steam Profile page comment section." copied from this tf2 guide

Common Scams & How to Stay Safe

Scams
A scam is when a Steam user convinces another user to make a deal (trade, gift or market transaction) under false pretenses. Scams usually involve deception in order to convince a user that they are getting a good or fair deal when in fact they are not. For more information on scams read the Steam Scam FAQ
The most Common Scams are:
Easiest Ways to Avoid Getting Scammed
You can check if someone is a marked scammer on SteamREP

Stay Safe

How to avoid Phishing Bots
When someone adds you you should check their profile is private, or if they have CSGO installed. If the profile is private, level between 0 to 3, or if it doesn't have CSGO, they are most probably a bot trying to steal your items and you should ignore/block it. These bots will usually send phishing links or try to get you to play in a tournament with them.
Steam Inventory Helper has an awesome feature to ignore/block invites below a certain level
Voice Comm Software / Join Our Tournament Team (Malware)
A user convinces you to install malware hidden in a voice communication, anti-cheat, or other type of software by claiming that they need you to install it so that you can play in a tournament.
Fake Steam Website (Malware)
A user wants to trade with you or wants you to be on their competitive team and sends you a link to a website that looks just like Steam. After you log in (providing the hijacker with your login name and password), you are either prompted to install malware disguised as a Steam update or malware is automatically installed onto your computer. Like previously stated, to check that you are logging into the correct website & not a phishing link, just look up at the url and if it begins with HTTPS and/or contains a little padlock icon then you will be signing in securely through steam. like so
Paypal/Steam Wallet Scams
Bots offer "Steam Wallet" funds for your items via a trade offer. There is no possible way to transfer Steam Wallet Money between users and this is 100% a scam.
Secure your Steam Account
"Ensure you have a strong complicated password securing your Steam Account and ensure it’s Steam Guard Enabled. Check your Steam Account Settings. An additional safeguard is to use an alternate email account from your day to day personal email. Create a new email account if necessary for use with your Steam Account and keep it private. Don’t use your real name or your gaming nickname for this account and again ensure you use a strong complicated password. Do not make this email address public especially within your Steam Profile or other gaming forums. In many cases hackers gain access to the email account associated with the Steam Account to change the account password so keeping your email account secret and secure is vitally important." copied from this tf2 guide
If you suspect there is a problem with your Steam account contact Steam Support immediately.

High Tier Items & Float Values

Determining the value of an item worth more than the market max ($400) can be tricky and time consuming. Here are common ways you can determine the value of your item:
High Tier Knives tend to have special Patterns that can change the value drastically. A very useful guide would be this one created by titaniumsack

Float Values

The Float Value is a number, mostly in decimals but sometimes in percentages. This number is from 0-1 / 0%-100%. This number tells you how good your weapon looks, if it has many scratches or not.
Float Wear
0.45 – 1.00 Battle-Scarred
0.37 – 0.45 Well-Worn
0.15 – 0.37 Field Tested
0.07 – 0.15 Minimal Wear
0.00 – 0.07 Factory New
The closer to 0 the better.
A really useful website used by almost every single trader is csgoexchange. If used correctly you will be able to determine the float and phase of an item. You are also able to see previous owners of an item and locate specific float skins.

Screenshots

In order to advertise your item, you will need to take screenshots. Screenshots enable a buyer to see what the item looks like ingame.
A growing fashion is the use of 4k Screenshots to show more detail in the images.
You can take 4k screenshots with an Nvidia GPU by following these steps:
You can take 4k screenshots with an AMD GPU by following these steps:
And simply copy-paste the images onto photoshop or any other photo editing software and mess around with the lighting, vibrance, blur etc. Asofnowyoudie made an awesome guide how to work with photoshop here
If you enjoyed the Guide then feel free to give it a Thumbs Up, Favourite & Share it with your friends. If you think I have missed anything, feel free to comment and I will try to add it in.
Comes to just under 3,500 words sooo yeah if you read it all, give yourself a pat on the back.
Transfer.
EDIT: added more information about scam attemps
EDIT 2: WOW, reddit gold?!?! What can I do with this stuff :O
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Bookie.GG Updates and Announcement

Update
We have new additions to our development team who have more experience in regards to security (and development), this will cause future attackers to be less successful in Distributed Denial of Service attacks on our website. We appreciate everyone's patience as we've recovered in this past 24 hours and would like to announce that we are now redoubling our efforts to ensure this March 1st close beta release date. We hope to give everybody a betting platform for CS:GO that people will enjoy using.
We have also started working closely with the 1HP team who have been more than helpful in assisting with our mobile application development which should be ready before we exit our March 1st closed beta.
Our first draft of the website rules are available here: http://redd.it/2vkbvi - Feel free to comment with your feedback and opinions on the rules. We will take all feedback into consideration and we will further enhance and develop our ruling system to make it the best possible platform.
Join our Steam group for future updates and announcements.
Feel free to direct any questions you may have to our forums - www.bookie.gg/forums
What is Bookie.GG?
Bookie.GG is a CS:GO betting website that is dedicated to ensuring that all users have the best experience possible with betting skins.
We have been working closely with many people experienced with the CS:GO betting scene to ensure that we can give everyone a quality client for betting CS:GO skins.
Our secondary goal is to develop a community where people can bet on matches, and to also have civilized yet enjoyable discussions on the forums. Join us in our Teamspeak 3 for realtime support, as well as any general discussion.
We are looking to receive valuable feedback from the community during our closed beta, this ensures all future updates are adding features that community members want and deserve.
Features:
• Item Draft System - similar to previous websites like CS:GO Lounge; you will be able to directly bet your skins on matches. We limit you to bet 10 items per match at a cap of $60 per item. We do not accept ANY knives, or items from newer collections.
• “Bank” - We allow you to store up to 20 items in our system that you may constantly use to bet. These items will allow you to bet without having to open a trade offer with a bot every time. These items will NOT be liable to be removed if you do not claim them, this means they won't be removed at any point in time. They are in our inventory to make your lives easier.
• Mobile Use: One of the biggest issues people have with websites similar to CS:GO Lounge or any other competitor is the ability to use it on a mobile device. We have successfully created a fully responsive system that will allow bettors to easily use the website on their mobile phones and tablets whereever, and whenever they want. This in turn, allows you to bet on the go. We are also working with the 1HP App guys to create a mobile application for Bookie.GG
• Forums - We believe the only way to maintain a great forum system is by having a third party manage the forums for us. We currently have a staff team hired to moderate the forums and ensure that all rules are being enforced. This allows everyone to have a discussion on the forums without fear that the Bookie.GG admins will delete posts if they feel like your complaints are unwarranted.
Staff:
Kaisar - Owner and Head Administrator
TranceAddicted - Legal Adviser
Wreckton - Moderator
Jpon9 - Moderator
Teb - Lead Developer
Komplex - Developer
We have plans to expand our staff team in any branch if needed, if the volume given in this website increases to an extent in which we feel like it is necessary in the future.
To sign up for our closed Beta please visit http://Bookie.GG/ and fill out the form. We’re looking forward to delivering quality betting services.
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Expected Value, the Rake, and You: Betting 101

Recently I've seen a lot of advice posts offering good insight into teams but being very, very incorrect on how to bet given the information. I thought I'd write up a post explaining probability and how to 'beat' CSGL.
Every bet you make has two outcomes with odds prescribed by CSGL. These odds are determined by the total value of bets placed on the respective teams. If people bet $750 on Team A and $250 on Team B, the odds will be 75:25. The formula that CSGL uses to determine the value of your winnings is:
= (bet size) * (value of losing team) / (value of winning team) 
But since the odds are determined using the proportion of values of the losing and winning teams, we can rewrite this as:
= (bet size) * (probability of losing) / (probability of winning) 
Notice that as our probability of winning goes down, the denominator gets smaller, meaning our returns get larger.
Every bet also has an expected value (or EV) which is defined as the sum of all products of outcome probabilities and the rewards for those outcomes. For CSGL, that equation is:
= (probability of winning) * (reward for winning) + (probability of losing) * (reward for losing) 
For example, if I wager $1 to flip a 50/50 coin and win $2 if it's heads, my EV is:
=(.5) * (2) + (.5) * (-1) = 1 + (-.5) = .5 
So I should expect to make 50 cents on every coin flip.
Now let's make the assumption that CSGL predicts the odds of every match correctly; that is, for given odds of a match, if the match were played infinitely many times, each team would win a proportion of the time that corresponds with the odds given by CSGL. We can now rewrite this formula as:
= (probability of winning) * ((bet size) * (probability of losing) / (probability of winning)) + (probability of losing) * -(bet size) = (bet size) * (probability of losing) + (probability of losing) * -(bet size) = 0 
Wait, what? Our expected value is ZERO?!
Well, not really - remember that CSGL takes a rake. From bets.js:
function newBetCalculate() { var total = 0; $("#betpoll .item").children('input[name="worth"]').each(function( index ) { total += parseFloat($(this).val()); }); total = Math.round(total * 100) / 100; $("#yourVal").html(total); $("#teamA").html( Math.round((valB*total/valA) * 97) / 100 ); $("#teamB").html( Math.round((valA*total/valB) * 97) / 100 ); } 
In reality, CSGL is taking between 1 and 3% of your calculated winnings depending on the match. Which makes sense - remember, the purpose of providing a gambling service is to make money from the gamblers. Casinos do this by offering bets against the bank with a disadvantage to the bettor, either in the rules of the game (blackjack) or by trusting that their predictions are more accurate than yours (sports lines). Since CSGL isn't providing the bank, it takes its payment directly from the pool of all total bets.
The result of this is that if you make uninformed bets based on CSGL lounges, you will always lose money in the long term because your bets are expected to lose money. So why bet at all, right?
Well, let's back up a bit - remember when I made the assumption that CSGL predicts the odds of every match correctly? Here's the thing - it doesn't. Not even a little bit. Think about the people you play matchmaking with in CS:GO. They're the people you're betting against. You know more about CS than them, right? Thought so.
The way to get an advantage in CSGL is to find out which teams are undervalued according to the odds - preferably at a significant enough ratio to beat the rake.
Let's say there's a matchup that CSGL says is 80/20 but you think the true odds are closer to 70/30. (which is to say, if the game were played 100 times, Team A would win ~70 and Team B would win ~30). Because the 'true' odds are different from the CSGL odds, our expected value is different. Because we think Team B has a higher chance to win than CSGL is giving them credit for, we want to bet on them. Assuming the rake is 3%, the EV for our bet becomes:
= (real probability of winning) * ((bet size) * (CSGL probability of losing) / (CSGL probability of winning)) * (.97) + (real probability of losing) * -(bet size) = (.3) * ((bet size) * (.8) / (.2)) * .97 + (.7) * -(bet size) = 1.164 * (bet size) - (.8) * (bet size) = .464 * (bet size) 
Hot dog! Our projected advantage on this match (assuming our odds are correct) is almost half of our bet. Conversely, our EV for betting on the overvalued Team A is:
= (real probability of winning) * ((bet size) * (CSGL probability of losing) / (CSGL probability of winning)) * (.97) + (real probability of losing) * -(bet size) = (.7) * ((bet size) * (.2) / (.8)) * .97 + (.3) * -(bet size) = .16975 * (bet size) - (.3) * (bet size) = -.13025 * (bet size) 
Our EV here is negative which means we should expect to lose roughly 10% of our bet every time we made this bet (if we made it infinitely many times).
EV gets calculated a lot in poker, and during those calculations it's easy to come out with a raw numerical EV because the values of our bets are determined by our opponents. In these calculations, however, our EV is based on our bet size but doesn't determine it. So how much do we bet?
Turns out there's a mathematically optimal amount to bet on games that's entirely dependent on your bankroll called the Kelly Criterion. The Kelly Criterion is:
f = (b * p - q) / b 
Where:
So let's say we have $100 of skins in our bankroll and we're betting on the same 70/30 game we were talking about earlier. Then our optimal fraction of our bankroll to bet determined by the Kelly Criterion is:
= (((.8) / (.2)) * .3 - .7) / ((.8) / (.2)) = (4 * .3 - .7) / 4 = .5 / 4 = .125 
So for this match where we think we have a 10% advantage on betting on an underdog, the Kelly Criterion suggests we bet 12.5% of our bankroll (which, conveniently, is $12.50).
There are a couple other wrinkles of the CSGL betting system to take into account - specifically the inability to get returns under a certain value (roughly ~$1 in my experience) and the "value hack" where betting a large amount on a heavy favorite returns larger-than-advertised returns. The only real thing to take away from this is that people with large bankrolls have a big advantage, but you should never be making bets that have a risk of not winning anything.
The last thing to think about is the arbitrage between the Marketplace and CSGL. If you can find items that have a higher value on CSGL than on the Steam Marketplace, you can give yourself better 'effective' odds. If you have $20 in cash to start with, the best thing you can do for yourself is buy 10 keys off of Paypal from a trader and suddenly you have $25 in value.
TLDR:
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Interview With Sonic

We Interviewed Aron 'Sonic' Groesbeek yesterday. Talking to him you can be sure he is full of eNergy and very enthusiastic ( get the Pun ? :D )
He has been one of the most popular players in the South African CSGO scene and its been awesome to have a talk with him.
How long have you been playing Counter Strike professionally for?
Who influenced you to pursue CS as a career? What other pros do you follow and emulate?
How easy is it trying to play CS professionally in SA considering that the scene is not as well developed?
South African Teams have had lots of roster changes / shuffles. How does it affect the team play / team chemistry? How quickly did you adjust to your new teammates in the case of your switch from Nav to eNergy?
Considering you are so young, how has it been for you to balance your professional gaming career with your studies / life?
What are your greatest strengths as a player? Conversely, what are your greatest weaknesses?
Would you consider moving to NA or EU to pursue your CS career?
How do you feel CS skin betting is affecting the scene in general?
How do you respond to the pressures of having your games being on Lounge and dealing with social media? Some players actually prefer their games not being on Lounge betting sites. Whats your opinion on that ?
Some People would say your gameplay is sketchy.How would you like to respond to that?
Other than eNergy eSports, which is your favorite team? & Why?
What are your future plans?
Finally Any parting words to your fans out there?
Hope You guys loved this :) We should have more coming soon.
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GingerHippo's Betting Journey

Hello there everyone, I'm GingerHippo, Moderator for eFragTV and I'm going to start showing my betting progress and also doing small analysis's of games before and afterwards so people can get an insight to what I thought about each teams performance during the game and also what I'm think is going to happen.
Steam Profile: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198066719529/
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London Conspiracy vs Virtus Pro Game (Prediction: ✓ Correct | Own Bet: ✓ Correct)
My First bet is going to be an AK-47 | Blue Laminate on London Conspiracy versus Virtus Pro in the best of 1. This isn't what everyone would do but with LC being a very well rounded team since ESL One Cologne 2014, they have gone up in the rankings and had some pretty decent wins and close matches against big teams (This isn't an analysis but one of the main reasons I've bet on LC). I've also put it on them as although I don't have a massive inventory, it's a best of one and anything can happen which also gives LC a good chance as both teams participating are both teams who play well together.
Bet: http://i.imgur.com/mYvu8ZJ.png
Thoughts (After Match):
So, London Conspiracy have just won against Virtus Pro with the final score-line being 16:14. This was a very close match and was going well for LC in the first 3 rounds before the DDOS occurred onto Neo from Virtus Pro where Olofmeister sat in for him instead. This boosted VP and the match started going back and forth until the score was 13:11 to Virtus Pro where I then thought that Virtus Pro were going to take the entire map.
London Conspiracy won some vital rounds (both Eco and force-buys) which helped them catch back up with Virtus Pro and make the score-line even between them both. They then got to the correct mind set and carried on playing a better CT side than they had previously by defending the bomb sites better and more than likely having more call outs via their Teamspeak or Skype. I missed the last two rounds due to eating but I'm going to say that LC outplayed VP due to VP not being able to play some strategies that they are used to when they have a full team.
Overall, the match started unexpectedly and this made it more interesting as a match until the DDOS. Virtus Pro obviously weren't on top of their game due to having to have a stand-in and not being able to play as they usually do on maps such as Overpass. London Conspiracy have shown us that they are a growing team who have potential to be playing against some of the top tier teams like Fnatic and LDLC in the future.
Winnings: http://i.imgur.com/R3bDkev.png
Titan vs Mouz Game (Prediction: ✓ Correct | Own Bet: ✓ Correct)
I've only gone small on this one due to me not having too many skins and the game starting straight after the LC/VP game which gave me no chance to add onto my original bet. But I've bet $0.65 on Mouz due to the fact that it's online and from what I've seen during my time betting, Mouz have always been really consistent when it comes to online matches and tournaments. They have also beaten Titan the past two times that they have met heads up (Online) and this made me want to go on them too. I would've gone more on my OG bet of Mouz if I had time and this would've gone from the $0.65 to around $2-$3 bet on them which would have resulted in better value within returns but meh.
Bet: http://i.imgur.com/NUmvrk1.png
I didn't watch the game so I can't give my thoughts on the game itself, sorry for that.
Winnings: http://i.imgur.com/avmQLsj.png (Not the best but still a win)
London Conspiracy vs Mouz Game (Prediction: ✓ Correct | Own Bet: ☓ Wrong)
Time & Date: 17:00PM GMT | 14/11/2014 | Maps: TBA | Bet: http://i.imgur.com/kodPYzz.png |
Personal Odds: 45% [London Conspiracy] & 55% [Mouz]
Analysis:
London Conspiracy vs Mouz is going to rather close in my opinion. This match was meant to be played on the 13/11/2014 after the Mouz vs Titan match but had to be rescheduled due to Mouz having to play their ESL Pro League German qualifier which means that it's going to be played on the 14/11/2014.
This match is going to be a Best of Three and is going to be close due to LC winning against VP on one of their best maps, even with VP starting on their favored side of CT. Although the DDOS attacks would have affected VP, they had the stand-in of Olofmeister who is from Fnatic. Some of the LC side played really well in their last match, these include RUBINO and Rain who were the main ones who were getting the opening frags within the rounds and Polly also played rather well but not up to his best standard which could have cost them the match due to him being out-done and out-awped in some situations during the match. One last player in LC that had a good role in LC as a stand-in was Skurk, he was second in the final score for LC and seems to fit in with LC's strategies which could mean that if he plays again against Mouz then he could make a difference to the scores.
During this match, it's going to down to Polly, Rain and Rubino to be getting the frags during this game as they are against one of the pro teams, Mouz. Mouz beat Titan who are one of the best teams in the CS:GO scene on Overpass with a 30%-70% betting percentage on CS:GO Lounge. This doesn't mean a lot but it shows how under-rated Mouz are as a team when it comes to Best of one's. LC are going to have to step up as a team if they are wanting to beat Mouz with flying colours and if Inferno comes into the map mix then that's going to be one of the maps that LC are going to have to take as it's basically their main map in which they have good strategies and team-play when on that map.
Overall, it's going to be a little close for both teams but Mouz could have a very good 2-0 score-line due to them having more practice against teams who are bigger than LC. Both have played really well in their last games and this means that they have had time to use strategies against top tier teams and also, both have similar skill levels such as ChrisJ and Polly with their AWP skills and this could lead to a battle between them. Although I'm saying it's going to be close due to their past match performances, I'd say go low on LC or even do a ICB bet on LC because unless you're going to be betting high on Mouz then you're not going to be getting a reasonable return and also Mouz have a higher chance of winning due to their overall skill level.
These are just my thoughts and I'm always welcome to discussion with what I've said and also what I can improve on, I do research on most teams before doing these analysis's and I don't expect you to follow what I'm doing personally. I've also gone on LC due to the odds being too high on Mouz for me to bet on them but LC have a very good chance depending on the maps that are picked, although they did do really well on Overpass which is a map that they don't play often and don't usually practice on either. This has lead me to believe that they have a good chance to win against Mouz due to their recent wins and close matches in other games against higher tier teams than Mouz.
After Match Analysis:
So, Mouz thrashed LC in this BO3 like I said above that they had better tactics and that LC had a small chance due to their previous games such as the one against VP.
This match seemed to be really easy for Mouz from the very start, even with LC starting on the CT side of Overpass. LC didn't do much throughout the match and in some occasions, they even had everyone go to Site B and fell for several fakes on that site by Allu, this allowed Mouz to stroll into Site A and get the bomb plant around 3 or 4 times throughout their entire time on T side. LC also didn't show their strongest plays or tactics in the first map and only got 5 rounds on their CT side with Mouz having 10 rounds on T side which is really good as Overpass is a CT sided map. Mouz had amazing aim through the entire map and got several headshots due to their boosts and clever plays where they checked certain corners where LC were hiding. As stated in my pre-analysis, it was the Polly vs ChrisJ show as both took to the AWP (ChrisJ more than Polly) and both were face-to-face throughout the map which was nice to see who comes come out on top.
When it went to Mirage, it was the same again, Mouz out aiming LC and playing like they usually do on their CT side, defensive. This helped them get a lead of 12 rounds in the first half and LC getting 3 on the T side which wasn't the greatest start for them and from there they continued to play an alright CT side and got 8 more rounds which gave them 11 overall but in the T rounds that Mouz won, they were again playing like a team and not doing dumb moves. They outdid LC in some situations such as fakes and such which also helped them get an overhand over LC's defense.
Overall, LC didn't play as well as they could and let pressure get the upper hand on them. They didn't react quick enough and also didn't have the best aim like we've seen in other games. This let Mouz take advantage of this and force their way into the sites in some rounds and others LC didn't even try defending the site as they fell for a fake and sent all 4 surviving players towards that site which allowed Mouz to get bomb plants and frags due to LC not expecting it and being off-guard. This also allowed Mouz to build a very nice early economy and this allowed them to buy-up even when losing 2 rounds in a row.
Final Map Scores:
Overpass (8:16) Mirage (11:16)
Mouz vs Penta Game (Prediction: ✓ Correct | Own Bet: None)
Bet: Not Betting.
Personal Odds: 85% [Mouz] & 15% [Penta]
This match is going to be highly favored towards Mouz due to their plays during online games these days. They brought their game back against Titan on Cobblestone yesterday and they are playing very well in their games lately. They are all playing as a top tier team and doing the correct call outs and defensive positioning in their matches and also playing offensively on both sides (T and CT) too which is helping them get their wins.
In my opinion, Mouz are going to take this match and a personal percentage is 85% [Mouz] and 15% [Penta] due to their recent performance and we've not seen a lot from Penta in their last games except from when they won against London Conspiracy on Dust 2. Although they did win, London Conspiracy were doing well until they started getting DDOSed which caused them to have some rounds where they were playing with 4 and even 3 players due to it. Mouz also have the aim advantage as their aim has been spot on in recent matches with them hitting lots of headshots without sprays and 1-clicks seems to be a walk in the park for their players. Penta also haven't had any wins at all when they have came face-to-face against Mouz which also leads me to think that Mouz are going to bring this home for their team.
I'd say bet High on Mouz if you're feeling that it's a walk in the park like me but if you're not too sure then I'd say do a ICB or small on Penta as it's not very likely that they are going to win the BO3 but there is a small chance that Penta could have practiced the picked maps well enough for them to win.
Virtus Pro vs London Conspiracy Game (Prediction: ✓ Correct | Own Bet: None)
Bet: Not Betting.
Personal Odds: 80% [Virtus Pro] & 20% [London Conspiracy]
Analysis:
The game between Virtus Pro and London Conspiracy isn't going to be close like the BO1 that occurred the other day. This is because even though Virtus Pro don't have Pasha, they are still a strong team and they only lost the BO1 the other day due to DDOS attacks that were on Neo which happened during rounds where LC had gotten the bomb down and this meant that when Neo was the last one alive, he couldn't do anything due to him being DDOSed, this allowed LC to get a few round lead and this led to them winning the match due to the DDOS.
Even though LC played well on Overpass in the BO1, they had good tactics and some nice plays which helped them get a 3:0 lead before the DDOS occurred. Although, LC in their game earlier against Mouz wasn't the best that we've seen of them as their aim was off, they didn't have very good tactics on CT or T side and they also left bomb sites open so that their opponents could just walk in and get the bomb down. This has lead me to think that VP has a greater upper-hand due to LC's confidence being deflated from their loss against Mouz and also because their aim wasn't the best earlier which lead to Mouz being able to win Eco rounds against full buys and also them losing many rounds down to their mistakes on CT side.
Overall, I'm going to say that VP have a very good chance of winning due to it being a BO3 and LC not being on top of their game. It also depends on the maps that are there too. This is if there aren't any DDOS issues during this game like the last one and this is also if LC have learnt that their aim was horrid in their game earlier which has meant that they have done some quick practice to get back to their original standard. I'm going to say go low on LC or ICB just in-case they have upped their game from earlier and have a small % of winning against VP on a BO3 because this gives VP a chance to get slightly warmed up in the first map and can carry on maintaining a good standard throughout the other maps. I'd say go medium on VP and not high because they don't have Pasha who is usually the main player who is last alive and gets some of the clutches and frags that help VP win some vital rounds but other than that, VP are a strong team and this will allow them to take rounds and maps that can make it easier for them, even if they have a small hole in their team with a stand-in.
CPH Wolves vs dAT Game (Prediction: ✓ Correct | Own Bet: ✓ Correct)
Bet: http://i.imgur.com/342voFK.png
Personal Odds: 65%% [CPH Wolves] & 35% [dAT]
The reason for me betting on CPH Wolves is that they have played really well as a team in their past games such as when they gave Fnatic a good running when they went against them over a month ago. They have shown that they have practiced maps together with this line-up and also practiced as a team with their aim and tactics.
I've only gone with $2 on CPH Wolves due to me not having too many betting skins and trying to build slowly rather than too risky (unless I have a high feeling that the underdog will win).
Analysis:
With CPH, they all are very good aimers with their rifles such as the M4 and AK which help them dearly. The only issue is that they don't have a "main" AWP players, although Pimp is usually the main guy we see using the AWP, all have a reasonable level with the weapon but whereas dAT have Worldedit who is their main AWP player in every game that they play which could make a disadvantage for CPH Wolves. Although they don't have a main AWP player, they do have enough practice on many of the main maps that are played such as Dust 2 and Inferno which are two maps where although an AWP is used for a majority of the match, rifles are used a lot too as there are some close quarter.
Although dAT have players who have their own roles with different weapons, they haven't played many matches lately which has meant that we haven't seen a lot from them and this hasn't helped with the research as they have played against some big teams in the past but also smaller teams where they have played as a very good team with tactics, communication and plays. This has meant that they have had some wins in their last games but nothing which makes them make me go "They have an easy win" which has given me the thought that CPH Wolves have an advantage as they have had recent matches against top tier teams and shown us that they can play very well when put into matches against teams such as Fnatic.
Overall, CPH have very nice tactics and aim which will help them get vital rounds which mean a lot to the maps that they are playing on and they also communicate well as a team when under-pressure. Although, they don't have an AWP player who can get the opening map frags like dAT do with Worldedit. Goodluck with your bets and enjoy watching the match.
Winnings: http://i.imgur.com/TQEtiHx.png
Thoughts (After Match):
This game was very nice to watch for the first map, it was Inferno and quite frankly even though it's a CT sided map with dAT starting on CT first, I was worried for CPH Wolves due to them not performing very well and ending their T side very far behind with a score of 2:13 [dAT with 13 CT rounds]. This got me worried as CPH players weren't playing or aiming very well with them missing vital frags which could have got them a few more T rounds. There was a slight issue during the very start of the match in which Seized from Navi stepped in for them, this didn't give me hope for CPH to be fair as Navi are really good at Inferno.
Although CPH very much failed on their T side and swiped 3 rounds, they brought it back with flying colours by winning an impressive 14 CT sided rounds and letting dAT only take 1. They upped their game massively during their CT side and with this, they held sites well, rotated at the correct times and had their aim precision back as well as their confidence as a team.
We saw Cadian have the AWP for a majority of the match and this was a good choice by CPH to do this as he was pin point precision with this, only missing a few shots but with this he had his teammates behind him to back him up. All of CPH worked as a team and gave a good fight throughout their CT side of Inferno. They all seemed to have very good tactics and communication which we've seen in previous matches and they also didn't let the nerves of being 11 rounds down get to them.
On Nuke, the second map. It sempt like dAT didn't really care and they even had to have another stand-in who was an alright help to them for a few rounds when he was the last alive and won some of the clutches but overall, dAT didn't play to their potential on Nuke and it didn't seem like they wanted to win to be fair. CPH won the map due to their aim, tactics and patience. It was like their first map on CT Inferno where they played as a team and worked well. It also seemed like they had good communication too which helped them win the entire match, 2:0.
NiP vs VP Game (Prediction: ✓ Correct | Own Bet: None, came back too late to bet)
Bet: None, came back too late.
Analysis:
This is going to be a fun match to watch with both teams having their full set-ups without any stand-ins and with the recent signing of Maikelele for NiP, we'll get to see his skills with the AWP and see if he can bring anything to NiP to try and get them back to their top form like we've seen them in the past. It can be good having him added but also bad as if they haven't practiced enough then yes, he could get frags for them but he might not know their strats enough for them to have an upper-hand against VP in the maps.
With NiP having a new signing, we will have to see if VP can counter Maikelele's AWP skills and see if they can get the opening frags before he does on them. Also, I'm thinking that both teams won't be using their new strategies during this game as they won't want any other teams to see what they have planned for DreamHack Winter which is coming soon. They will use their normal strategies and do things like they usually do.
Both teams know how to play CS:GO well and all players have very good aim which can help them get frags and win rounds that are needed throughout the match. Although, VP have a full team and have been playing together longer than the new NiP line-up which means that they will be working well as a team compared to NiP as they have the time that they have put in together and also the experience with a lot of the maps that could come into the map pool.
Overall, I'm saying VP will win this match 2-0 (depending on maps) as they have better team plays and tactics which will counter NiP and their new line-up. I'd suggest going medium-big on VP, even if the odds aren't in their favor which means that if they are on form like usual then you can make a lot of skins. If you want to and believe in the new NiP line-up then go small-medium on NiP.
VP vs Mouz Game (Prediction: | Own Bet: None)
Bet: $2 on VP due to lack of betting skins.
Analysis:
I'd have to go with VP, even though Mouz have had some alright games and have played alright as a team, they haven't been the "better" team overall as they haven't won any games since they were on that winning streak before. With VP, they have won 4 BO3's with an impressive score on 2-0, these have been against Cloud 9, NiP and Titan and also against a lower tier team of LC.
VP seem to have their tactics in better shape than Mouz and in my opinion, Mouz are getting under pressure due to playing against some higher tier teams such as Titan, although they do win some of these matches. Personally, Allu and ChrisJ need to show everyone how good they have been in the past as in the last couple of games they haven't shown us anything except that they have an alright aim but that's not getting Mouz the wins, nor the rounds.
Overall, I'd say bet on skip for a safe bet but Mouz could have practiced since yesterday which means that Allu and ChrisJ and others in Mouz could have some new tactics which they could pull out of the bag and win this BO3 with flying colours. If you're wanting to bet then I'd say do an ICB on Mouz as although they have been playing well to then play rather horrifically yesterday, they still are a high tier team and could win this match.
Will try and get Analysis's up of all games that are on CS:GO Lounge (even if I'm not betting on it) and will try and help you guys win some skins. Please don't blame me if there are any losses as I'm just giving my thoughts of the games before and after
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