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What a USL D1 league might look like
TL;DR: Man with too much time on his hands goes deep down the rabbit hole on a concept this sub already didn’t seem that enthusiastic about. If you really want to skip ahead, CTRL+F “verdict” and it’ll get you there. submitted by Soccervox to USLPRO [link] [comments]
Two days ago, u/MrPhillyj2wns
made a post asking whether USL should launch a D1 league
in order to compete in Concacaf. From the top voted replies, it appears this made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.
But I’ve been at home for eight weeks and I am terribly, terribly bored.
So, I present to you this overview of what the USL pyramid might look like if Jake Edwards got a head of steam and attempted to establish a USSF-sanctioned first division. This is by no means an endorsement of such a proposal or even a suggestion that USL SHOULD do such a thing. It is merely an examination of whether they COULD.
Welcome to the
First, there are some base-level assumptions we must make in this exercise, because it makes me feel more scientific and not like a guy who wrote this on Sunday while watching the Belarusian Premier League (Go BATE Borisov!).
(Known) USSF D1 league requirements:
- All D1 teams must comply with known USSF requirements for D1 leagues (more on that later).
- MLS, not liking this move, will immediately remove all directly-owned affiliate clubs from the USL structure (this does not include hybrid ownerships, like San Antonio FC – NYCFC). This removes all MLS2 teams but will not affect Colorado Springs, Reno, RGVFC and San Antonio.
- The USL will attempt to maintain both the USL Championship and USL League One, with an eventual mind toward creating the pro/rel paradise that is promised in Relegations 3:16.
- All of my research regarding facility size and ownership net worth is correct – this is probably the biggest leap of faith we have to make, since googling “NAME net worth” and “CITY richest people” doesn’t seem guaranteed to return accurate results.
- The most a club can increase its available seating capacity to meet D1 requirements in a current stadium is no more than 1,500 seats (10% of the required 15,000). If they need to add more, they’ll need a new facility.
- Let’s pretend that people are VERY willing to sell. It’s commonly acknowledged that the USL is a more financially feasible route to owning a soccer club than in MLS (c.f. MLS-Charlotte’s reported $325 million expansion fee) and the USSF has some very strict requirements for D1 sanctioning. It becomes pretty apparent when googling a lot of team’s owners that this requirement isn’t met, so let’s assume everyone that can’t sells to people who meet the requirements.
- League must have 12 teams to apply and 14 teams by year three
- Majority owner must have a net worth of $40 million, and the ownership group must have a total net worth of $70 million. The value of an owned stadium is not considered when calculating this value.
- Must have teams located in the Eastern, Central and Pacific time zones
- 75% of league’s teams must be based in markets with at a metro population of at least 1 million people.
- All league stadiums must have a capacity of at least 15,000
The ideal club candidate for the USL Premiership will meet the population and capacity requirements in its current ground, which will have a grass playing surface. Of the USL Championship’s 27 independent/hybrid affiliate clubs, I did not find one club that meets all these criteria as they currently stand.
Regarding turf fields, the USSF does not have a formal policy regarding the ideal playing surface but it is generally acknowledged that grass is superior to turf. 6 of 26 MLS stadiums utilize turf, or roughly 23% of stadiums. We’ll hold a similar restriction for our top flight, so 2-3 of our top flight clubs can have turf fields. Seem fair?
Capacity is going to be the biggest issue, since the disparity between current requirements for the second-tier (5,000) and the first tier (15,000) is a pretty massive gap. Nice club you have there, triple your capacity and you’re onto something. As a result, I have taken the liberty of relocating certain (read: nearly all) clubs to new grounds, trying my utmost to keep those clubs in their current markets and –importantly--, ensure they play on grass surfaces.
So, let’s do a case-by-case evaluation and see if we can put together 12-14 teams that meet the potential requirements, because what else do you have to do?
For each club’s breakdown, anything that represents a chance from what is currently true will be underlined. Candidate: Birmingham Legion FC
Location (Metro population): Birmingham, Ala. (1,151,801)
Time zone: Central
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Legion Field (FieldTurf, 71,594)
Potential owner: Stephens Family (reported net worth $4 billion)
Notes: Birmingham has a pretty strong candidacy. Having ditched the 5,000-seater BBVA Field for Legion Field, which sits 2.4 miles away, they’ve tapped into the city’s soccer history. Legion Field hosted portions of both the men’s and women’s tournaments at the 1996 Olympics, including a 3-1 U.S. loss to Argentina that saw 83,183 pack the house. The Harbert family seemed like strong ownership contenders, but since the death of matriarch Marguerite Harbert in 2015, it’s unclear where the wealth in the family is concentrated, so the Stephens seem like a better candidate. The only real knock that I can think of is that we really want to avoid having clubs play on turf, so I’d say they’re on the bubble of our platonic ideal USL Prem. Candidate: Charleston Battery
Location (Metro population): Charleston, S.C. (713,000)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Johnson Hagood Stadium (Grass, ~14,700)
Potential owner: Anita Zucker (reported net worth $3 billion)
Notes: Charleston’s candidacy isn’t looking great. Already disadvantaged due to its undersized metro population, a move across the Cooper River to Johnson Hagood Stadium is cutting it close in terms of capacity. The stadium, home to The Citadel’s football team, used to seat 21,000, before 9,300 seats on the eastern grandstand were torn down in 2017 to deal with lead paint that had been used in their construction. Renovation plans include adding 3,000 seats back in, which could hit 15,000 if they bumped it to 3,300, but throw in a required sale by HCFC, LLC (led by content-creation platform founder Rob Salvatore) to chemical magnate Anita Zucker, and you’ll see there’s a lot of ifs and ands in this proposal. Candidate: Charlotte Independence
Location (Metro population): Charlotte, N.C. (2,569, 213)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Jerry Richardson Stadium (Turf, 15,314)
Potential owner: James Goodnight (reported net worth $9.1 billion)
Notes: Charlotte ticks a lot of the boxes. A move from the Sportsplex at Matthews to UNC-Charlotte’s Jerry Richardson stadium meets capacity requirements, but puts them on to the dreaded turf. Regrettably, nearby American Legion Memorial Stadium only seats 10,500, despite a grass playing surface. With a sizeable metro population (sixth-largest in the USL Championship) and a possible owner in software billionaire James Goodnight, you’ve got some options here. The biggest problem likely lies in direct competition for market share against a much better-funded MLS Charlotte side due to join the league in 2021. Candidate: Hartford Athletic
Location (Metro population): Hartford, Conn. (1,214,295)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Pratt & Whitney Stadium (Grass, 38,066)
Potential owner: Ray Dalio (reported net worth $18.4 billion)
Notes: Okay, I cheated a bit here, having to relocate Hartford to Pratt & Whitney Stadium, which is technically in East Hartford, Conn. I don’t know enough about the area to know if there’s some kind of massive beef between the two cities, but the club has history there, having played seven games in 2019 while Dillon Stadium underwent renovations. If the group of local businessmen that currently own the club manage to attract Dalio to the table, we’re on to something. Candidate: Indy Eleven
Location (Metro population): Indianapolis, Ind. (2,048,703)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Lucas Oil Stadium (Turf, 62,421)
Potential owner: Jim Irsay (reported net worth of $3 billion)
Notes: Indy Eleven are a club that are SO CLOSE to being an ideal candidate – if it weren’t for Lucas Oil Stadium’s turf playing surface. Still, there’s a lot to like in this bid. I’m not going to lie, I have no idea what current owner and founder Ersal Ozdemir is worth, but it seems like there might be cause for concern
. A sale to Irsay, who also owns the NFL Indianapolis (nee Baltimore) Colts, seems likely to keep the franchise there, rather than make a half-mile move to 14,230 capacity Victory Field where the AAA Indianapolis Indians play and expand from there. Candidate: Louisville City FC
Location (Metro population): Louisville, Ky. (1,297,310)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Lynn Family Stadium (Grass, 14,000, possibly expandable to 20,000)
Potential owner: Wayne Hughes (reported net worth $2.8 billion)
Notes: I’m stretching things a bit here. Lynn Family stadium is currently listed as having 11,700 capacity that’s expandable to 14,000, but they’ve said that the ground could hold as many as 20,000 with additional construction, which might be enough to grant them a temporary waiver from USSF. If the stadium is a no-go, then there’s always Cardinal Stadium, home to the University of Louisville’s football team, which seats 65,000 but is turf. Either way, it seems like a sale to someone like Public Storage founder Wayne Hughes will be necessary to ensure the club has enough capital. Candidate: Memphis 901 FC
Location (Metro population): Memphis, Tenn. (1,348,260)
Time zone: Central
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Liberty Bowl Stadium (Turf, 58,325)
Potential owner: Fred Smith (reported net worth $3 billion)
Notes: Unfortunately for Memphis, AutoZone Park’s 10,000 seats won’t cut it at the D1 level. With its urban location, it would likely prove tough to renovate, as well. Liberty Bowl Stadium more than meets the need, but will involve the use of the dreaded turf. As far as an owner goes, FedEx founder Fred Smith seems like a good local option. Candidate: Miami FC, “The”
Location (Metro population): Miami, Fla. (6,158,824)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Riccardo Silva Stadium (FieldTurf, 20,000)
Potential owner: Riccardo Silva (reported net worth $1 billion)
Notes: Well, well, well, Silva might get his wish for top-flight soccer, after all. He’s got the money, he’s got the metro, and his ground has the capacity. There is the nagging issue of the turf, though. Hard Rock Stadium might present a solution, including a capacity of 64,767 and a grass playing surface. It is worth noting, however, that this is the first profile where I didn’t have to find a new potential owner for a club. Candidate: North Carolina FC
Location (Metro population): Durham, N.C. (1,214,516 in The Triangle)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Carter-Finley Stadium (Grass/Turf, 57,583)
Potential owner: Steve Malik (precise net worth unknown) / Dennis Gillings (reported net worth of $1.7 billion)
Notes: We have our first “relocation” in North Carolina FC, who were forced to trade Cary’s 10,000-seat WakeMed Soccer Park for Carter-Finley Stadium in Durham, home of the NC State Wolfpack and 57,583 of their closest friends. The move is a whopping 3.1 miles, thanks to the close-knit hub that exists between Cary, Durham and Raleigh. Carter-Finley might be my favorite of the stadium moves in this exercise. The field is grass, but the sidelines are artificial turf. Weird, right? Either way, it was good enough for Juventus to play a friendly against Chivas de Guadalajara there in 2011. Maybe the move would be pushed for by new owner and medical magnate Dennis Gillings, whose British roots might inspire him to get involved in the Beautiful Game. Straight up, though, I couldn’t find a net worth for current owner Steve Malik, though he did sell his company MedFusion for $91 million in 2010, then bought it back for an undisclosed amount and sold it again for $43 million last November. I don’t know if Malik has the juice to meet D1 requirements, but I suspect he’s close. Candidate: Pittsburgh Riverhounds SC
Location (Metro population): Pittsburgh, Penn. (2,362,453)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Heinz Field (Grass, 64,450)
Potential owner: Henry Hillman (reported net worth $2.5 billion)
Notes: I don’t know a ton about the Riverhounds, but this move in particular feels like depriving a pretty blue-collar club from its roots. Highmark Stadium is a no-go from a seating perspective, but the Steelers’ home stadium at Heinz Field would more than meet the requirements and have a grass surface that was large enough to be sanctioned for a FIFA friendly between the U.S. WNT and Costa Rica in 2015. As for an owner, Tuffy Shallenberger (first ballot owner name HOF) doesn’t seem to fit the USSF bill, but legendary Pittsburgh industrialist Henry Hillman might. I’m sure you’re asking, why not the Rooney Family, if they’ll play at Heinz Field? I’ll tell you: I honestly can’t seem to pin down a value for the family. The Steelers are valued at a little over a billion and rumors persist that Dan Rooney is worth $500 million, but I’m not sure. I guess the Rooneys would work too, but it’s a definite departure from an owner in Shallenberger who was described by one journalist as a guy who “wears boots, jeans, a sweater and a trucker hat.” Candidate: Saint Louis FC
Location (Metro population): St. Louis, Mo. (2,807,338)
Time zone: Central
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Busch Stadium (Grass, 45,494)
Potential owner: William DeWitt Jr. (reported net worth $4 billion)
Notes: Saint Louis has some weirdness in making the jump to D1. Current CEO Jim Kavanaugh is an owner of the MLS side that will begin play in 2022. The club’s current ground at West Community Stadium isn’t big enough, but perhaps a timely sale to Cardinals owner William DeWitt Jr. could see the club playing games at Busch Stadium, which has a well established history of hosting other sports like hockey, college football and soccer (most recently a U.S. WNT friendly against New Zealand in 2019). The competition with another MLS franchise wouldn’t be ideal, like Charlotte, but with a big enough population and cross marketing from the Cardinals, maybe there’s a winner here. Wacko idea:
If Busch doesn’t pan out, send them to The Dome. Sure, it’s a 60k turf closed-in stadium, but we can go for that retro NASL feel and pay homage to our nation’s soccer history. Candidate: Tampa Bay Rowdies
Location (Metro population): Tampa, Fla. (3,068,511)
Time zone: Eastern
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Raymond James Stadium (Grass, 65,518)
Potential owner: Edward DeBartolo Jr. (reported net worth $3 billion)
Notes: This one makes me sad. Despite having never been there, I see Al Lang Stadium as an iconic part of the Rowdies experience. Current owner Bill Edwards proposed an expansion to 18,000 seats in 2016, but the move seems to have stalled out. Frustrated with the city’s lack of action, Edwards sells to one-time San Francisco 49ers owner Edward DeBartolo Jr., who uses his old NFL connections to secure a cushy lease at the home of the Buccaneers in Ray Jay, the site of a 3-1 thrashing of Antigua and Barbuda during the United States’ 2014 World Cup Qualifying campaign. Breather. Hey, we finished the Eastern Conference teams. Why are you still reading this? Why am I still writing it? Time is a meaningless construct in 2020 my friends, we are adrift in the void, fueled only by brief flashes of what once was and what may yet still be. Candidate: Austin Bold FC
Location (Metro population): Austin, Texas (2,168,316)
Time zone: Central
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Darrel K Royal – Texas Memorial Stadium (FieldTurf, 95,594)
Potential owner: Michael Dell (reported net worth of $32.3 billion)
Notes: Anthony Precourt’s Austin FC has some unexpected competition and it comes in the form of tech magnate Michael Dell. Dell, were he to buy the club, would be one of the richest owners on our list and could flash his cash in the new first division. Would he have enough to convince Darrel K Royal – Texas Memorial Stadium (I’m not kidding, that’s its actual name) to go back to a grass surface, like it did from ’96-’08? That’s between Dell and nearly 100,000 UT football fans, but everything can be had for the right price. Candidate: Colorado Springs Switchbacks FC
Location (Metro population): Colorado Springs, Colo. (738,939)
Time zone: Mountain
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Falcon Stadium (FieldTurf, 46,692)
Potential owner: Charles Ergen (reported net worth $10.8 billion)
Notes: Welcome to Colorado Springs. We have hurdles. For the first time in 12 candidates, we’re back below the desired 1 million metro population mark. Colorado Springs actually plans to build a $35 million, 8,000 seat venue downtown that will be perfect for soccer, but in our timeline that’s 7,000 seats short. Enter Falcon Stadium, home of the Air Force Academy Falcons football team. Seems perfect except for the turf, right? Well, the tricky thing is that Falcon Stadium is technically on an active military base and is (I believe) government property. Challenges to getting in and out of the ground aside, the military tends to have a pretty grim view of government property being used by for-profit enterprises. Maybe Charles Ergen, founder and chairman of Dish Network, would be able to grease the right wheels, but you can go ahead and throw this into the “doubtful” category. It’s a shame, too. 6,035 feet of elevation is one hell of a home-field advantage. Candidate: El Paso Locomotive FC
Location: El Paso, Texas
Time zone: Mountain
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Sun Bowl (FieldTurf, 51,500)
Potential owner: Paul Foster (reported net worth $1.7 billion)
Notes: God bless Texas. When compiling this list, I found so many of the theoretical stadium replacements were nearly serviceable by high school football fields. That’s insane, right? Anyway, Locomotive don’t have to settle for one of those, they’ve got the Sun Bowl, which had its capacity reduced in 2001 to a paltry 51,500 (from 52,000) specifically to accommodate soccer. Sure, it’s a turf surface, but what does new owner Paul Foster (who is only the 1,477th wealthiest man in the world, per Forbes) care, he’s got a team in a top league. Side note:
Did you know that the Sun Bowl college football game is officially, through sponsorship, the Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl? Why is it not the Frosted Flakes Sun Bowl? Why is the cereal mascot the promotional name of the football game? What are you doing, Kellogg’s? Candidate: Las Vegas Lights FC
Location: Las Vegas, Nev. (2,227,053)
Time zone: Pacific
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Allegiant Stadium (Grass, 61,000)
Potential owner: Sheldon Adelson (reported net worth $37.7 billion)
Notes: Sin City. You had to know that the club that once signed Freddy Adu because “why not” was going to go all out in our flashy hypothetical proposal. Thanks to my narrative control of this whole thing, they have. Adelson is the second-richest owner in the league and has decided to do everything first class. That includes using the new Raiders stadium in nearby unincorporated Paradise, Nevada, and spending boatloads on high profile transfers. Zlatan is coming back to the U.S., confirmed. Candidate: New Mexico United
Location: Albuquerque, N.M.
Time zone: Mountain
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Isotopes Park – officially Rio Grande Credit Union Field at Isotopes Park (Grass, 13,500 – 15,000 with expansion)
Potential owner: Maloof Family (reported net worth $1 billion)
Notes: New Mexico from its inception went deep on the community vibe, and I’ve tried to replicate that in this bid. The home field of Rio Grande Cr---I’m not typing out the whole thing—Isotopes Park falls just within the expansion rules we set to make it to 15,000 (weird, right?) and they’ve found a great local ownership group in the Lebanese-American Maloof (formerly Maalouf) family from Las Vegas. The only thing to worry about would be the metro population, but overall, this could be one of the gems of USL Prem. Candidate: Oklahoma City Energy FC
Location: Oklahoma City, Okla. (1,396,445)
Time zone: Central
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Chickasaw Bricktown Ballpark (Grass, 13,066)
Potential owner: Harold Hamm (reported net worth $14.2 billion)
Notes: There’s a bright golden haze on the meadow and it says it’s time to change stadiums and owners to make it to D1. A sale to oil magnate Harold Hamm would give the club the finances it needs, but Chickasaw Bricktown Ballpark (home of the OKC Dodgers) actually falls outside of the boundary of what would meet capacity if 1,500 seats were added. Could the club pull off a move to Gaylord Family Oklahoma Memorial Stadium in Norman, Oklahoma – home of the Oklahoma Sooners? Maybe, but at 20 miles, this would be a reach. Candidate: Orange County SC
Location: Irvine, Calif. (3,176, 000 in Orange County)
Time zone: Pacific
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Angels Stadium of Anaheim (Grass, 43,250)
Potential owner: Arte Moreno (reported net worth $3.3 billion)
Notes: You’ll never convince me that Rangers didn’t choose to partner with Orange County based primarily on its name. Either way, a sale to MLB Angels owner Arte Moreno produces a fruitful partnership, with the owner choosing to play his newest club out of the existing Angels stadium in OC. Another baseball conversion, sure, but with a metro population of over 3 million and the closest thing this hypothetical league has to an LA market, who’s complaining? Candidate: Phoenix Rising FC
Location: Phoenix, Ariz. (4,857,962)
Time zone: Arizona
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): State Farm Stadium (Grass, 63,400)
Potential owner: Ernest Garcia II (reported net worth $5.7 billion)
Notes: We’re keeping it local with new owner and used car guru Ernest Garcia II. His dad owned a liquor store and he dropped out of college, which is making me feel amazing about my life choices right now. Casino Arizona Field is great, but State Farm Stadium is a grass surface that hosted the 2019 Gold Cup semifinal, so it’s a clear winner. Throw in Phoenix’s massive metro population and this one looks like a lock. Candidate: Reno 1868 FC
Location: Reno, Nev. (425,417)
Time zone: Pacific
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Mackay Stadium (FieldTurf, 30,000)
Potential owner: Nancy Walton Laurie (reported net worth $7.1 billion)
Notes: The Biggest Little City on Earth has some serious barriers to overcome, thanks to its low metro population. A sale to Walmart heiress Nancy Walton Laurie and 1.6 mile-move to Mackay Stadium to split space with the University of Nevada, Reno makes this bid competitive, but the turf surface is another knock against it. Candidate: Rio Grande Valley FC
Location: Edinburg, Texas (900,304)
Time zone: Central
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): McAllen Memorial Stadium (FieldTurf, 13,500 – 15,000 with expansion)
Potential owner: Alice Louise Walton (reported net worth $45 billion)
Notes: Yes, I have a second straight Walmart heiress on the list. She was the first thing that popped up when I googled “McAllen Texas richest people.” The family rivalry has spurred Walton to buy a club as well, moving them 10 miles to McAllen Memorial Stadium which, as I alluded to earlier, is a straight up high school football stadium with a full color scoreboard. Toss in an additional 1,500 seats and you’ve met the minimum, despite the turf playing surface. Candidate: San Antonio FC
Location: San Antonio, Texas (2,550,960)
Time zone: Central
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Alamodome (FieldTurf, 64,000)
Potential owner: Red McCombs (reported net worth $1.6 billion)
Notes: I wanted to keep SAFC in the Spurs family, since the franchise is valued at $1.8 billion. That said, I didn’t let the Rooneys own the Riverhounds based on the Steelers’ value and it felt wrong to change the rules, so bring on Clear Channel co-founder Red McCombs. Toyota Field isn’t viable in the first division, but for the Alamodome, which was built in 1993 in hopes of attracting an NFL franchise (and never did), San Antonio can finally claim having *a* national football league team in its town (contingent on your definition of football). Now if only we could do something about that turf… Candidate: San Diego Loyal SC
Location: San Diego, Calif. (3,317,749)
Time zone: Pacific
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): SDCCU Stadium (formerly Qualcomm) (Grass, 70,561)
Potential owner: Phil Mickelson (reported net worth $91 million)
Notes: Yes, golf’s Phil Mickelson. The existing ownership group didn’t seem to have the wherewithal to meet requirements, and Phil seemed to slot right in. As an athlete himself, he might be interesting in the new challenges of a top flight soccer team. Toss in a move to the former home of the chargers and you might have a basis for tremendous community support. Candidate: FC Tulsa
Location: Tulsa, Okla. (991,561)
Time zone: Central
Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Skelly Field at H.A. Chapman Stadium (FieldTurf, 30,000)
Potential owner: George Kaiser ($10 billion)
Notes: I’m a fan of FC Tulsa’s rebrand, but if they want to make the first division, more changes are necessary. A sale to Tulsa native and one of the 100 richest men in the world George Kaiser means that funding is guaranteed. A move to Chapman Stadium would provide the necessary seats, despite the turf field. While the undersize population might be an issue at first glance, it’s hard to imagine U.S. Soccer not granting a waiver over a less than a 10k miss from the mark.
And that’s it! You made it. Those are all of the independent/hybrid affiliates in the USL Championship, which means that it’s time for our…
VERDICT: As an expert who has studied this issue for almost an entire day now, I am prepared to pronounce which USL Championships could be most ‘ready” for a jump to the USL Prem. A reminder that of the 27 clubs surveyed, 0 of them met our ideal criteria (proper ownership $, metro population, 15,000+ stadium with grass field).
Two of them, however, met almost all of those criteria: Indy Eleven and Miami FC. Those two clubs may use up two of our three available turf fields right from the outset, but the other factors they hit (particularly Silva’s ownership of Miami) makes them difficult, if not impossible to ignore for the top flight.
But who fill in the rest of the slots? Meet the entire 14-team USL Premier League: Hartford Athletic Indy Eleven Louisville City FC Miami FC North Carolina FC Pittsburgh Riverhounds SC Tampa Bay Rowdies Saint Louis FC San Antonio FC New Mexico United Phoenix Rising FC Las Vegas Lights FC Orange County SC San Diego Loyal SC
Now, I shall provide my expert rationale for each club’s inclusion/exclusion, which can be roughly broken down into four categories. Firm “yes” Hartford Athletic:
It’s a good market size with a solid stadium. With a decent investor and good community support, you’ve got potential here. Indy Eleven
: The turf at Lucas Oil Stadium is no reason to turn down a 62,421 venue and a metro population of over 2 million. Louisville City FC:
Why doesn’t the 2017 & 2018 USL Cup champion deserve a crack at the top flight? They have the market size, and with a bit of expansion have the stadium at their own SSS. LCFC, you’re in. Miami FC, “The”:
Our other blue-chip recruit on the basis of ownership value, market size and stadium capacity. Yes, that field is turf, but how could you snub Silva’s chance to claim victory as the first division 1 club soccer team to play in Miami? Pittsburgh Riverhounds SC:
Pittsburgh sacrificed a lot to be here (according to my arbitrary calculations). Their market size and the potential boon of soccer at Heinz Field is an important inclusion to the league. Saint Louis FC:
Willie hears your “Busch League” jokes, Willie don’t care. A huge market size, combined with the absence of an NFL franchise creates opportunity. Competition with the MLS side, sure, but St. Louis has serious soccer history and we’re willing to bet it can support two clubs. Tampa Bay Rowdies:
With a huge population and a massive stadium waiting nearby, Tampa Bay seems like too good of an opportunity to pass up for the USL Prem. Las Vegas Lights FC:
Ostentatious, massive and well-financed, Las Vegas Lights FC is everything that the USL Premier League would need to assert that it didn’t intend to play second fiddle to MLS. Players will need to be kept on a short leash, but this is a hard market to pass up on. Phoenix Rising FC:
Huge population, big grass field available nearby and a solid history of success in recent years. No brainer. San Diego Loyal SC:
New club? Yes, massive population in a market that recently lost an absolutely huge sports presence? Also yes. This could be the USL Prem’s Seattle. Cautious “yes” New Mexico United:
You have to take a chance on New Mexico United. The club set the league on fire with its social media presence and its weight in the community when it entered the league last season. The market may be slightly under USSF’s desired 1 million, but fervent support (and the ability to continue to use Isotopes Park) shouldn’t be discounted. North Carolina FC
: Carter-Finley’s mixed grass/turf surface is a barrier, to be sure, but the 57,000+ seats it offers (and being enough to offset other fully-turf offerings) is enough to put it in the black. Orange County SC:
It’s a top-tier club playing in a MLB stadium. I know it seems unlikely that USSF would approve something like that
, but believe me when I say “it could happen.”
Orange County is a massive market and California likely needs two clubs in the top flight. San Antonio FC:
Our third and only voluntary inclusion to the turf fields in the first division, we’re counting on San Antonio’s size and massive potential stadium to see it through. Cautious “no” Birmingham Legion FC:
The town has solid soccer history and a huge potential venue, but the turf playing surface puts it on the outside looking in. Memphis 901 FC:
Like Birmingham, not much to dislike here outside of the turf playing surface at the larger playing venue. Austin Bold FC:
See the other two above. FC Tulsa:
Everything’s just a little bit off with this one. Market’s slightly too small, stadium has turf. Just not enough to put it over the top. Firm “no” Charleston Battery:
Small metro and a small potential new stadium? It’s tough to say yes to the risk. Charlotte Independence:
A small new stadium and the possibility of having to compete with an organization that just paid over $300 million to join MLS means it’s best for this club to remain in the USL Championship. Colorado Springs Switchbacks FC:
When a club’s best chance to meet a capacity requirement is to host games at a venue controlled by the military, that doesn’t speak well to a club’s chances. El Paso Locomotive FC:
An undersized market and a turf field that meets capacity requirements is the death knell for this one. Oklahoma City Energy FC:
Having to expand a baseball field to meet requirements is a bad start. Having to potentially play 20 miles away from your main market is even worse. Reno 1868 FC:
Population nearly a half-million short of the federation’s requirements AND a turf field at the hypothetical new stadium makes impossible to say yes to this bid. Rio Grande Valley FC:
All the seat expansions in the world can’t hide the fact that McAllen Memorial Stadium is a high school stadium through and through.
Here’s who’s left in the 11-team Championship: Birmingham Legion FC Charleston Battery Charlotte Independence Memphis 901 FC Austin Bold FC Colorado Springs Switchbacks FC El Paso Locomotive FC Oklahoma City Energy FC Reno 1868 FC Rio Grande Valley FC FC Tulsa
With MLS folding the six affiliates it has in USL League One, the league is a little bit thin (especially considering USSF’s requirements for 8 teams for lower level leagues), but seems definitely able to expand up to the necessary numbers with Edwards’ allusions to five new additions this year: Chattanooga Red Wolves SC Forward Madison FC Greenville Triumph SC Union Omaha Richmond Kickers South Georgia Tormenta FC Tucson Format of Assorted Leagues –
This (like everything in this post) is pure conjecture on my part, but here are my thoughts on how these leagues might function in a first year while waiting for additional expansion. USL Premier –
We’ll steal from the 12-team Scottish Premiership. Each club plays the other 11 clubs 3 times, with either one or two home matches against each side. When each club has played 33 matches, the top six and bottom six separate, with every club playing an additional five matches (against each other team in its group). The top club wins the league. The bottom club is automatically relegated. The second-bottom club will enter a two-legged playoff against someone (see below) from the championship playoffs. USL Championship --
11 clubs is a challenge to schedule for. How about every club plays everyone else three times (either one or two home matches against each side)? Top four clubs make the playoffs, which are decided by two-legged playoffs. The winner automatically goes up. I need feedback on the second part – is it better to have the runner-up from the playoffs face the second-bottom club from the Premiership, or should the winner of the third-place match-up get the chance to face them to keep drama going in both playoff series? As for relegation, we can clearly only send down the last place club while the third division is so small. USL League One –
While the league is so small, it doesn’t seem reasonable to have the clubs play as many matches as the higher divisions. Each club could play the other six clubs four times – twice at home and twice away – for a very equitable 24-match regular season, which would help restrict costs and still provide a chance to determine a clear winner. Whoever finishes top of the table goes up.
And there you have it, a hypothetical look at how the USL could build a D1 league right now. All it would take is a new stadium for almost the entire league and new owners for all but one of the 27 clubs, who wouldn’t feel that their property would be massively devalued if they got relegated.
Well that’s our show. I’m curious to see what you think of all of this, especially anything that you think I may have overlooked (I’m sure there’s plenty). Anyway, I hope you’re all staying safe and well.
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Tame Impala performing in 2014
Tame Impala performing in 2014
Origin Perth, Western Australia, Australia
Psychedelic poppsychedelic rockneo-psychedelia
Years active 2007–present
PondGumMelody's Echo ChamberTheophilus London
Members Kevin Parker
Tame Impala is a psychedelic music project of Australian multi-instrumentalist Kevin Parker. In the recording studio, Parker writes, records, performs, and produces all of the project's music. As a touring act, Tame Impala consists of Parker (guitar, vocals), Dominic Simper (guitar, synthesiser), Jay Watson (synthesiser, vocals, guitar), Cam Avery (bass guitar, vocals), and Julien Barbagallo (drums, vocals). The group has a close affiliation with fellow Australian psychedelic rock band Pond, sharing members and collaborators, including Nick Allbrook, formerly a live member of Tame Impala. Originally signed to Modular Recordings, Tame Impala is now signed to Interscope Records in the US, and Fiction Records in the UK.
Parker originally conceived the project in Perth in 2007. After a series of singles and EPs, Tame Impala's debut studio album, Innerspeaker, was released in 2010; it was certified gold in Australia and well received by critics. Parker's 2012 follow-up, Lonerism, was also acclaimed, reaching platinum status in Australia and receiving a Grammy Award nomination for Best Alternative Music Album. Tame Impala's third album, Currents, was released in July 2015, and like its predecessor, it won ARIA Awards for Best Rock Album and Album of the Year. Parker won the APRA Award for Song of the Year 2016 for Currents' first track, "Let It Happen". The fourth and most recent studio album, The Slow Rush, was released 14 February 2020.
1.1 2007–2008: Early career
1.2 2008–2009: Tame Impala EP
1.3 2009–2010: "Sundown Syndrome"
1.4 2010: Innerspeaker
1.5 2011–2014: Lonerism
1.6 2015–2017: Currents
1.7 2018: Other projects
1.8 2019–present: The Slow Rush
2 Musical style
3.2.1 Former live members
3.3 Live band timeline
5 Awards and nominations
7 External links
2007–2008: Early career
The origins of the act can be found in the Perth music scene. Parker played in a number of bands, one being the Dee Dee Dums, a rock duo that consisted of Parker (guitar) and Luke Epstein (drums). Tame Impala emerged in 2007 as a Kevin Parker home-recording project in this period and he posted a number of tracks on Myspace. This brought interest from a number of labels and eventually, he signed a worldwide deal with the independent Modular Recordings in July 2008. To transfer these recordings to a live-stage, Parker enlisted the help of Dominic Simper (bass) and Jay Watson (drums) and began playing at some local gigs.
2008–2009: Tame Impala EP
Tame Impala performing at the 2009 V Festival in Perth, Western Australia
The signing was soon followed by the release of their self-titled EP in September 2008. It reached the number 1 position on the Australian Independent Record Labels (AIR) Chart and number 10 on the ARIA Physical Singles Chart, with three songs, "Desire Be, Desire Go", "Half Full Glass of Wine" and "Skeleton Tiger" receiving national radio airplay on the Triple J radio station.
Tours in 2008 included supports for You Am I, The Black Keys, Yeasayer and MGMT, as well as performances at Southbound Festival, Meredith Music Festival and Falls Festival, and national headline tours in support of their EP. Tours in 2009 included a sold-out six-date "Skeleton Tiger" national headline tour and a five-date UK tour (including Nevereverland UK), as well as performances at V Festival and Groovin The Moo, and a stadium tour with The Living End and Gyroscope.
Tame Impala appeared on Triple J's Hottest 100 list in 2008—their first appearance on the list—with "Half Full Glass of Wine" at number 75. The song is also on the Hottest 100 compilation album.
2009–2010: "Sundown Syndrome"
Parker in April 2009 during a performance at Somerville Auditorium
Tame Impala's first single, "Sundown Syndrome", was recorded at Toerag Studios in London, UK, with recording engineer Liam Watson, while the band was in the UK in March 2009. "Sundown Syndrome" was premiered by Richard Kingsmill on his "2009" show on Triple J on Sunday 10 May 2009. The song was released in July 2009 on vinyl, and digitally with a cover of "Remember Me" by DJ Blue Boy.
The band then headlined the inaugural "Rottofest" in August 2009, an annual comedy, film and music festival held on Rottnest Island off the coast of Western Australia. Following Rottofest, they embarked on a national tour through September and October 2009 in support of the single. "Remember Me" appeared at number 78 on Triple J's Hottest 100 for 2009.
"Sundown Syndrome" was included on the soundtrack of the Oscar-nominated film The Kids Are All Right. "Half Full Glass of Wine" was used in HBO's popular television series Entourage as the closing song for an episode.
Tame Impala appeared at the Australian/New Zealand Big Day Out festival in early 2010, performing alongside bands such as Muse, The Mars Volta, Kasabian and Rise Against.
Main article: Innerspeaker
Tame Impala performing at Red Rocks Amphitheatre in June 2010
Tame Impala's debut album Innerspeaker was released on 21 May 2010. In the UK the official release date was 28 June, but iTunes accidentally made it available for purchase on 12 May. The album was released in the United States on 8 June to general and critical acclaim. Pitchfork named it Best New Music.
In an interview with Triple J talking about the album's nomination for the J Award, Parker stated that they had secretly been recording a new album. "Jay and I have been recording pretty compulsively and album number two is nearing potential completion already and I'm so excited about it that I'm having trouble keeping myself from telling you all about it". This came only months after Innerspeaker was released.
The group toured in mid-2010, commencing the Innerspeaker album tour on 13 May 2010 as the opening act for MGMT's 2010 American tour. The band returned to Australia to play at Splendour in the Grass festival, which was followed by a European Tour in July (including an appearance at the Reading Festival) and a national Australian tour in October. In November they returned to the UK and Europe for a fifteen date tour, including their largest London headline show to date which was attended by Noel Gallagher, Tom Meighan, Sergio Pizzorno, Noel Fielding, Alexa Chung and Alison Mosshart, the band then went on to the United States and Canada for twenty headline dates including sold-out shows in Toronto, New York, Los Angeles, and San Francisco. They also received four 2010 ARIA Music Awards nominations which include, "Album of the Year" and "Best Rock Album" for Innerspeaker, "Best Group" and also "Breakthrough Artist".
On 29 November 2010, Innerspeaker won Australian youth-oriented radio network Triple J's highest honour, winning the J Award for Album of the Year.
Main article: Lonerism
Parker performing with Tame Impala in March 2011
Tame Impala's second album, Lonerism was released in 2012 and was produced by Dave Fridmann. Parker said that Lonerism "represents a departure from his previous work by incorporating an expanded sonic palette, more emotional song writing, and a more pronounced narrative perspective". It was created in a similar set up as Innerspeaker, whereby Parker wrote and recorded the majority of the album by himself at his girlfriend, Jivani Duke's, home in Perth, Australia. Parts of the recording also occurred in Parker's home studio in France.
While in France, Parker produced and played on the self-titled dream pop album by Melody's Echo Chamber, the project of French singer Melody Prochet. As a result, one of the tracks on Lonerism is titled "Endors Toi", which roughly translates from French to English as "fall asleep". The album cover is a photo taken by Parker of the Jardin du Luxembourg in Paris, France, with additional editing by Leif Podhajsky, a graphic designer who created the album art for Innerspeaker. The image ties into the themes of isolation of Lonerism, with a metal gate separating the viewer from the people in the Gardens.
The band released the song "Apocalypse Dreams" for free download on 7 July 2012. The first single "Elephant" was released in July 2012. The album was released on 5 October in Australia, 8 October in the United Kingdom and 9 October in the United States. StillinRock described it as the best album of the year. The album features the songs "Apocalypse Dreams" and "Elephant", which are some of the first songs that Parker has co-written with Watson. "Feels Like We Only Go Backwards" was released as the second single.
Tame Impala in October 2012
In November 2012, Lonerism won the 2012 J Award for Australian Album of the Year. It was the second time Tame Impala had won the award, after also winning it for their debut album Innerspeaker in 2010. They are the first band to win the J Award more than once. In January 2013, Lonerism was selected by Rolling Stone for the 2012 Album of the Year award after the band also won the award in 2011 for Innerspeaker. It was also announced as album of the year by UK magazine NME. Additionally, Lonerism was voted number one overall in Rolling Stone, Triple J, NME, Filter, Urban Outfitters, FasterLouder and Obscure Sound's 2012 Album of the Year polls. Lonerism became the first Australian album to win NME's album of the year. "Elephant" and "Feels Like We Only Go Backwards" appeared at number 7 and 9 respectively in Triple J's Hottest 100 for 2012.
The band began an international tour in 2012 through 2013, supported by The Growl. During this tour, they played major festivals, such as Coachella, Sasquatch Festival, and appeared on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon. For this tour Watson switched from drums to keyboards and Parker recruited Julien Barbagallo on drums.
In September 2012, Tame Impala's first U.S. feature appeared on the cover of the publication The FADER, in its 82nd issue.
On 18 May 2013, it was announced via Facebook that Allbrook would leave the band to focus on other musical endeavours, and that Cam Avery of Pond and The Growl would take his place. Allbrook played his final gig with the band on their last Australian tour date of 2013 at Perth's Belvoir Amphitheatre, the same venue that Allbrook played his first gig with the band at in 2008. As a farewell gesture, the band played a cover of Outkast's "Prototype".
Lonerism received a 2014 Grammy Award nomination in December 2013 in the Best Alternative Music Album category.
Main article: Currents
Cam Avery and Kevin Parker, performing with Tame Impala in June 2014
It is believed that Parker started recording the follow-up album to Lonerism at the beginning of 2014, due to various Instagram posts that showed recording taking place at Wave House in Western Australia, where the debut album Innerspeaker was recorded. Prior to this, Parker had been touring with Tame Impala and working on other musical projects, including his disco-funk band, AAA Aardvark Getdown Services. Parker said in May 2013:
Right now, doing another album doesn't excite me. There's something narrow-minded about thinking an album is the only way you can put out music, especially in the world we’re in at the moment. Anything is possible. There's so many people doing interesting things with the internet and technology, there could be so many ways of making music and listening to it. It's 2013 and you can make music anywhere ... There are so many possibilities, my brain is overloading on them all. I just need to wait, think about things a bit more. Then I’ll know what to do next.
In May 2014, Parker spoke of his growing inclination toward the recording of another album in a triple J radio interview, explaining that: "I'm getting more and more sucked into the world of making an album. It's weird how it happens naturally, it's almost feels like a seasonal thing. I've started to think about tracklistings and all the things that come with an album." Describing the sound of the new album, Parker said "I'm gonna try to make it a bit more minimal this time; only use what's needed ... instead of a supreme pizza, where you just throw everything on". Watson added: "[It’s] probably gonna be less rock again and more electronic again, even more than the last one". Parker later stated that the inspiration behind the new polished sound of Tame Impala's third album came from listening to a Fleetwood Mac song. He said that the pureness and cleanness of Fleetwood Mac's song prompted him to attempt to create a more streamlined musical style within Currents.
Tame Impala performing at Lollapalooza in September 2015
On 6 January 2015, Spinning Top Music announced that a new Tame Impala album will be released in 2015. During the same month, it was announced that the band would perform at the Boston Calling Music Festival in May 2015.
On 11 March 2015, a new song entitled "Let It Happen" was released as a free download.
On 5 April 2015, Tame Impala announced and released the album cover for Currents in a Facebook post. A few hours later the band released the first official single from the upcoming album on Facebook called "'Cause I'm a Man". Later that month, on 22 April 2015, Tame Impala officially released "Let it Happen" as the second single from the album. One week later, on 29 April 2015, Kevin Parker held an AMA on reddit, where he provoked fans to ask him to release a new song, then responding with "Disciples", which became the first promotion single for the upcoming album Currents. On 7 May 2015, the band announced that the album would be released in 17 July 2015 and released the third official single, "Eventually".
During the same 30 April 2015 reddit AMA, Parker said, "Up until recently, from all of Tame Impala's record sales outside of Australia I had received.... zero dollars. Someone high up spent the money before it got to me. I may never get that money."
Tame Impala performing at Red Rocks Amphitheatre in August 2016
In October 2017, a Collector's Edition of Currents was announced. Released on 17 November, it included three B-sides and two remixes.
2018: Other projects
By the end of 2017, Tame Impala announced that they agreed to play the 2018 Mad Cool musical concert in Spain, which would be the first live music show the band agreed to play in 2018. Tame Impala also played a headline set at London's Citadel Festival in July 2018.
In July 2018, during an interview with Beats 1 anchor host Matt Wilkinson, Parker confirmed for the first time that he had begun working on a new Tame Impala album, adding that he was "ready to play some other songs live" and expressing an interest to headline a stage at Glastonbury Festival in 2019. He also stated that he would be "very disappointed" if the new record by Tame Impala wasn't released by summer 2019.
On 1 July 2018, Tame Impala teamed up with artist ZHU to create the single "My Life".
In October 2018, Parker played bass for rapper Travis Scott for a performance of "Skeletons/Astrothunder" on Saturday Night Live, with singer-songwriter John Mayer also part of the backing band.
On 10 October, the band was scheduled to headline the first night of the annual Desert Daze festival in its new location in Moreno Beach, but had to cut their set short after three songs due to inclement weather.
On 14 October, female R&B singer SZA released the single "Together" on YouTube, which is billed as "SZA featuring Tame Impala." Later that month, on 31 October, rapper Theophilus London released a new single in collaboration with Tame Impala under the moniker of Theo Impala.
2019–present: The Slow Rush
Main article: The Slow Rush
Tame Impala performing at Primavera Sound 2019
On 2 January 2019, Tame Impala was announced as a headliner for the 2019 Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival. They also headlined the 2020 Primavera Sound festival, making them only the second Australian act to do so. Around the same time, Parker announced that he expected to release a new album during that summer. The 2020 album is named The Slow Rush and features 12 tracks recorded in Los Angeles and in Parker's hometown of Fremantle, Australia.
On 21 March, Tame Impala released the single "Patience", and has teased new music on Instagram for the forthcoming album. They were the musical guest for Saturday Night Live on 30 March, with host Sandra Oh. On the show, the band performed "Patience" and a new song, "Borderline", which was released 12 April. On 25 October, Tame Impala revealed the title of their fourth studio album, The Slow Rush. Three days later on 28 October, they released the song "It Might Be Time". On 3 December, Tame Impala released the single "Posthumous Forgiveness". The album was released on 14 February 2020.
Josh Terry of Vice named Tame Impala his "Artist of the Decade" for the 2010s, writing, "No artist captured how genres cross-pollinated throughout the 2010s better than Tame Impala". He added: "In the age of streaming and the big-box festival bubble, Parker's discography seems factory-made for both a crowd of thousands and a chill night alone with a vibe-heavy playlist" and that "his music embodies the technology-driven sense of loneliness of this decade better than any of his peers".
"The Less I Know the Better" was voted number one in Triple J's Hottest 100 of the Decade on 14 March 2020. This was the highest ranking for Tame Impala in a Hottest 100 Countdown and the first the project had attained number one in any Hottest 100 (the same song had previously placed fourth in the 2015 Hottest 100).
On 20 March 2020, Parker appeared on The Weeknd's album After Hours, producing and providing background vocals on a track called "Repeat After Me (Interlude)".
Parker's decision to make the music for Tame Impala in the studio by himself is a result of Parker liking "the kind of music that is the result of one person constructing an awesome symphony of sound. You can layer your own voice 700 times for half a second if you want, and I just love that kind of music". However, Parker has to translate his music to a live setting with the band, and the band doesn't play the songs until they have been recorded. "The only jamming that's done as a band is done a long time after the song is recorded for the sake of the live environment. It's good for us, because we can take a song that's been recorded and do what we want to it: slow it down, speed it up, make it 10 seconds or 10 minutes long. It gives us a lot of freedom."
Some favoured and often-used effects by Parker include phasing, delay, reverb and fuzz. Experimentation with different effects pedals such as Roland RE-20 Space Echo, has led to Parker creating new and unique sounds. "If you make an effort to not put the pedals in the order you're meant to, then you'll end up with something new sounding. We don't have any things that we got from another planet or anything, it's the same things everyone else has used." "People have a distortion pedal and then a reverb pedal. A reverb is meant to make it sound like it's in a cathedral or something. If you put it the other way around, it won't sound like a guitar being played in a church, it'll sound like a church being stuffed inside a shoebox and then exploded. You can do different things just by treating things differently."
Parker's process for making music is "I’ll have a sudden, spontaneous vision of a song, have all the parts mapped out in mind, and do my best to record it as quick as I can. I’ll find my eight-track and do a quick demo of just the riff, or a verse or a chorus. The song will go for like 30 seconds. I’ll have a whole bunch of them [demos] and then I’ll just choose which ones to make into full songs". Parker has a strong sense of melody in his music, having composed "excessively melodic music from about the age of 12 to 15". For Parker, the music comes before the lyrics, "I usually write the lyrics after the melody and its timing have been decided. But the words have to be meaningful. I try to synchronise certain words with the best parts of the melody, but it can be really difficult and does my head in. I like to keep the meaning pretty open and ambiguous so that it's not just me that gets something out of the lyrics. I usually write lyrics from a persona rather than tell a specific story." Parker also said "Usually I am sufficiently motivated to think of new songs everyday, but I usually forget them. I seem to get an emotional kick out of sensing feelings of general desperation or hopelessness, whether it's me or someone near me or someone in a movie or anything. It's really difficult to sit down and force yourself to write a song, and that forced nature usually comes out in the song so I just have to wait until they come to me."
Tame Impala's music and live visuals are heavily influenced by psychedelic music.
Parker's music is heavily influenced by late 1960s and early 1970s psychedelic rock, which is achieved through various production methods. Parker said that he has a "fetish for extremely sugary pop music" from artists like Britney Spears and Kylie Minogue. Parker also loves "fucked-up explosive cosmic music" in the vein of The Flaming Lips, with whom Parker collaborated on the track "Children of the Moon" in 2012, for the release The Flaming Lips and Heady Fwends.
Combining these two things, My Bloody Valentine have influenced Parker's music with their contrasting combination of loud guitars and ethereal melodies. Parker has "always been in love with the wall of sound as employed by My Bloody Valentine" and he tries to capture that "melancholy dreamy feel". Parker tries to incorporate this balance into his own music. "If I was singing, I wouldn't be able to match the tone of the instruments, which is really crunchy. The instruments are quite sonically brutal, but the voice is really soft, and I think that kind of resonates with people. It's kind of like My Bloody Valentine, where it's really brutal sounding, but kind of beautiful at the same time". Tame Impala live drummer Jay Watson has described Parker's music as containing "shoegazey guitar sound, but not played in a shoegazey manner".
Electronic music is another influence. Parker has used rock instrumentation in an electronic manner, saying "The way we do music, it's organic, but it's meant to be quite repetitive and hypnotic, almost in a kind of electronic nature. Using our playing as though it was a living sample". A heavy feature on Innerspeaker is a pitch-shifted guitar tone that many mistook for a synth. Parker mentioned this by saying "I had a few obsessions when recording Innerspeaker. One was to make the guitars sound like synths and drums sound like drum samples and pretty much anything except guitars and drums. I'm obsessed with confusing people as to the origin of a sound."
Parker was inspired to take up various creative endeavours at a young age, "I used to draw a lot when I was very young, and I used to get the most immense feeling of satisfaction from finishing a picture and looking back at it, even though I wasn't actually that good. When I started playing music I got the same feeling from making a song, even if it was just a few noises or drum patterns put together. It was all about the buzz from making something from nothing. Music always affected me greatly as a listener anyway, usually from listening to music in my dad's car or listening to him play guitar."
Lo-fi music is also a favourite of Parker's, and he incorporated it heavily in the early days of Tame Impala, heard prominently on the Tame Impala EP. With the release of Innerspeaker, Parker went for a different approach to a lo-fi sound, aiming more for a more cosmic and sonic wall of sound, helped by mixer Dave Fridmann. Parker explained "It sounds more cohesive, like an organism. It has a different emotion to it, it brings out a different feeling when it's absolutely blaring at you. I love that sound."
Parker has also stated that Supertramp, one of his favourite bands, are a major influence on the musical style of Tame Impala. Despite their difference in sound, he feels he is always somewhat "channeling Supertramp". He has said that listening to the Bee Gees on mushrooms inspired him to change the sound of the music he was making on Currents.
Kevin Parker – all vocals and instruments, production (2007–present)
Kevin Parker – vocals, guitar (2007–present)
Jay Watson – drums (2007–2012); synthesiser, guitar, backing vocals (2012–present)
Dominic Simper – bass guitar (2007–2013); guitar, synthesiser, keyboards (2009–present)
Julien Barbagallo – drums, backing vocals (2012–present)
Cam Avery – bass guitar, backing vocals (2013–present), synthesizer (2019–present)
Former live members
Nick Allbrook – guitar, synthesiser, bass guitar (2009–2013)
Loren Humphrey – drums (2019)
Live band timeline
Main article: Tame Impala discography
The Slow Rush (2020)
Awards and nominations
The APRA Awards are presented annually from 1982 by the Australasian Performing Right Association (APRA), "honouring composers and songwriters". Tame Impala have won one award from three nominations.
Year Category Nominated work Result Ref.
2011 Breakthrough Songwriter of the Year Kevin Parker Nominated 
2013 APRA Song of the Year "Feels Like We Only Go Backwards" Won 
Year Category Nominated work Result Ref.
2010 Best Group Tame Impala Nominated 
Breakthrough Artist Nominated
Album of the Year Innerspeaker Nominated
Best Rock Album Nominated
Best Cover Art Nominated
2013 Best Group Tame Impala Won 
Best Australian Live Act Nominated
Album of the Year Lonerism Won
Best Rock Album Won
Best Cover Art Nominated
Engineer of the Year Kevin Parker Nominated
Producer of the Year Nominated
2014 Best Australian Live Act Tame Impala Nominated 
2015 Album of the Year Currents Won 
Best Rock Album Won
Best Pop Release "Let It Happen" Nominated
Best Group Tame Impala Won
Engineer of the Year Kevin Parker Won
Producer of the Year Won
2016 Best Australian Live Act Tame Impala Nominated
Year Category Nominated work Result Ref.
2016 Best International Group Tame Impala Won
EG Music Awards
Year Category Nominated work Result Ref.
2012 Best Song "Elephant" Won 
Year Category Nominated work Result Ref.
2014 Best Alternative Music Album Lonerism Nominated
2016 Currents Nominated
Year Category Nominated work Result Ref.
2010 Australian Album of the Year Innerspeaker Won 
2012 Lonerism Won 
2015 Currents Nominated 
MTV Europe Music Awards
Year Category Nominated work Result Ref.
2016 Best Alternative Act Tame Impala Nominated
Best Video "The Less I Know the Better" Nominated
MTV Video Music Awards
Year Category Nominated work Result Ref.
2016 Best Direction "The Less I Know the Better" Nominated
Year Category Nominated work Result Ref.
2016 Best International Band Tame Impala Nominated
Best Album Currents Nominated
Best Music Video "The Less I Know the Better" Nominated
Rolling Stone Awards
Year Category Nominated work Result Ref.
2011 Album of the Year Innerspeaker Won 
2012 Lonerism Won 
Year Category Nominated work Result Ref.
2009 Most Popular Act Tame Impala Nominated 
Most Popular Live Act Nominated
Favourite Newcomer Won
Most Promising New Act Won
Best Rock Act Nominated
Most Popular Single/EP Tame Impala EP Won
Most Popular Music Video "Half Full Glass of Wine" Nominated
Best Male Vocalist Kevin Parker Nominated
Best Bassist Dominic Simper Nominated
Best Drummer Jay Watson Nominated
2010 Best Rock Act Tame Impala Nominated 
2011 Most Popular Act Won 
Most Popular Live Act Won
Best Rock Act Won
Most Popular Album Innerspeaker Nominated
Best Guitarist Kevin Parker Won
2013 Group of the Year Tame Impala Won 
Single of the Year "Feels Like We Only Go Backwards" Won
Album of the Year Lonerism Won
Music Video of the Year "Elephant" Won
2015 Best Rock Act Tame Impala Nominated 
Most Popular Act Won
Most Popular Live Act Won
Best Album Currents Won
Best Single "Let It Happen" Nominated
Most Popular Music Video Won
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Arizona League Rookie
- Toros de Tijuana (No Affiliation) Jose Guadalupe Chavez (Status Change) - Toros de Tijuana placed 2B Jose Guadalupe Chavez on the reserve list.
- Toros de Tijuana (No Affiliation) Jake Sanchez (Status Change) - Toros de Tijuana placed RHP Jake Sanchez on the reserve list.
- Olmecas de Tabasco (No Affiliation) Joel Munoz (Released) - Olmecas de Tabasco released RHP Joel Munoz.
- Olmecas de Tabasco (No Affiliation) Jesus Broca (Signed as Free Agent) - Olmecas de Tabasco signed free agent LHP Jesus Broca.
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- AZL Brewers Gold (____) Garrett Mitchell (Assigned) - OF Garrett Mitchell assigned to AZL Brewers Gold.
- AZL Angels (LAA) David Calabrese (Assigned) - OF David Calabrese assigned to AZL Angels.
(total moves: 12
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- DSL D-backs1 (ARI) Cristofer Campo (Released) - DSL D-backs1 released 2B Cristofer Campo.
- DSL D-backs2 (ARI) Julio Avendano (Released) - DSL D-backs2 released RHP Julio Avendano.
- DSL D-backs2 (ARI) Bernardo Rodriguez (Released) - DSL D-backs2 released LHP Bernardo Rodriguez.
(total moves: 1
- GCL Pirates (PIT) Parker Brahms (Assigned) - RHP Parker Brahms assigned to GCL Pirates.
A couple weeks back I asked for this subs input on what to do with the number 1 overall pick. Thought I'd give an update/storyline on my decision and how the different careers panned out. With the First overall pick in the 2050 MLB Draft...
The Chicago White Sox decided to trade the pick to the Colorado Rockies for 19 yo. CF Dante Ballesteros and 21 yo. RF Chris Negron submitted by SHP6 to OOTP [link] [comments]
(based on feedback from this sub
). After evaluating the different options, it was decided that the best player the pick could net was Ballesteros. I just moved on from Dante Ballesteros, so I was inspired to write this post. Below is the story of how every player turned out. Warning: Long Post Option 1: Draft SP Larry Stone
Perhaps the favoured option before seeking external advice, the White Sox considered selecting Larry Stone
with the First overall pick. Larry was a 21 yo. college pitcher fresh off a 10-1 record with a 1.57 ERA at the University of Alabama. After being passed on with the first pick, Stone was drafted 2nd overall by the Boston Red Sox. He was immediately one of the top prospects in the game (18th overall at the start of the 2051 season).
Stone progressed quickly through the minors and reached the MLB in 2052. Pitching mainly out of the bullpen, he had a rough season there, posting a 5.93 ERA. He moved to the rotation in 2053, where he had his best major league season with 22 starts, a 4.15 ERA and 2.4 rWAR. Despite success in his first season, he was quickly figured out by MLB hitters, battled to stay healthy and after four more MLB seasons (and a whopping 30 injuries) he was out of the league. For his career he carried a 32-20 record in 109 games, with a 4.91 ERA and 2.1 WAR. Larry Stone career stats Option 2: Draft 2B Chris Magana
Second Basemen Chris Magana
was the top hitter in the 2050 draft and ended up being drafted 5th overall by the Seattle Mariners. Magana was touted for his average to above average tools across the board, as well as the defensive versatility to play anywhere on the diamond. Once drafted he made the transition to CF and was sent to rookie ball. In the spring before the 2051 season, Magana was traded Chicago White Sox for young 3B Jose Chaparro (1.0 WA162) and subsequently named the 98th overall prospect.
He progressed through the minor leagues slowly for a college draftee, but did climb to be the 63rd best prospect in baseball. After failing to stand out for the second straight year in AAA, he was included as part of a 5-player package for the Minnesota Twins All-Star SS Francisco Moreno just before opening day 2056.
After 2 different trades before even making the major leagues, Magana played well enough in AAA to earn a call-up to the Twins roster. He failed to make any type of impact and has since bounced between AAA and the MLB for the past four seasons. Magana’s defensive versatility remained his greatest asset, as he spent time in the Major Leagues playing every fielding position outside of 1st base and Catcher. Chris Magana career stats (2056-2059) Option 3: Trade the pick to the Colorado Rockies for CF Dante Ballesteros and RF Chris Negron What the Rockies did with the #1 Pick:
Let's try this again. With the first overall pick in the 2050 MLB Draft, the Colorado Rockies select... 1B Chris Davis from Cal Tech University.
Going into his first professional season Chris Davis would be ranked as the 74th overall prospect in Baseball. Despite a down year, Scouts still saw 70 grade power potential in the youngster and entered his second full season as the 80th overall prospect. From here Chris Davis (already in A+ ball) would progress up the minor league levels to AA before stagnating in development.
After being traded a couple times he finally found himself in position to make a major league roster on the Milwaukee Brewers at the age of 24. In his rookie season Davis played in a whopping 16 games accumulating a total of 2 hits. With a whopping 50% strikeout rate, Davis was quickly sent back down to AAA, never to return to the major leagues again. After struggling more once returning to the minors, at the tender age of 26, Davis would be released and subsequently retire from the game of baseball. How the White Sox did in the trade
In the trade the Chicago White Sox recieved 19 yo. CF Dante Ballesteros
and 21 yo. RF Chris Negron. Ballesteros was the Rockies #1 prospect at the time and the 57th overall. Ballesteros was highly touted for his ability to make solid contact and avoid strikeouts, while playing elite defense. Negron was the Rockies 4th overall prospect and while he didn't have a single standout tool outside of his arm, projected as an above average major-leaguer with solid tools across the board. While rumors of the trade initially included Rockies #2 overall Prospect RF Rob Williams, rumors of him being a bad clubhouse presence caused the White Sox to ask for Negron instead. Following the trade both players had immediate success in the White Sox organization. Chris Negron
In his first season Negron would slash .297/.361/.592 with 37 HRs and 6.3 WAR for the Kannapolis Intimidators in A-ball. After an even better .329/.410/.564 and 8.2 WAR in his second season, he began to push the top 100 prospects lists, but never quite made the cut. Chris then struggled to adjust to AAA and battled with injuries, stagnating his development.
Four years after the trade, in 2054, he became a Minor League Free Agent. After signing with the Indians, Chris Negron would become a AAAA player, accumlating -0.5 WAR in the MLB across 3 seasons. As of 2060, he is now on the decline sitting in AA in the Phillies organization. Dante Ballesteros
At the time of the trade, Dante Ballesteros was quite obviously the headliner, and he would live up to the expectations. With the best potential hit tool in the minor leagues, Ballesteros immediately joined the White Sox’ Pioneer League affiliate Great Falls Voyagers. In 71 games with the Voyagers, Ballesteros would hit .319 on way to a 130 wRC+. The next season, following an aggressive promotion to A+, Dante would begin to show some more power with 41 extra-base hits and a .302 average. Despite struggling during his stop in AA at age 21, Ballesteros saw such great success in his first year in AAA that he was promoted to the White Sox in August 2053 as an injury replacement.
Despite a lackluster performance from Dante in the Divisional and Championship Series, the White Sox made it back to the World Series for the 5th straight time. Once there though, Dante hit .435 against the Pirates, leading the White Sox to the 2053 World Series championship. For his efforts, despite only a quarter season of MLB experience, Dante was awarded World Series MVP.
The following season, the White Sox traded for 21 year old, budding superstar and defensive wizard, Angel Chavez. Due to his better fit in a corner outfield position, Ballesteros was sent down to AAA to gain experience in LF. Unfortunately, early in the season disaster struck. Ballesteros suffered a hamstring injury that would force him out for almost two months. Close to returning, Dante suffered a major setback putting him out for another month and a half. Finally returning from injury in August, Dante rehabbed and worked on defense in AAA for the remaining couple weeks of the 2054 season.
Dante began the 2055 season in AAA, working on his “defense” before being called up to be the White Sox fourth outfielder. In 46 games that season Dante would hit .353 with 2.3 WAR. After his playing time increased in September, due to injuries, Ballesteros would guide the White Sox through the playoffs to another World Series win, picking up an ALDS MVP along the way.
Come spring 2056, Postseason hero Dante Ballesteros would find himself in a familiar situation facing a stack outfield in front of him. Bouncing between the MLB and AAA, an assortment of injuries kept Ballesteros from making a meaningful impact in the regular season. His worst season to date, Dante slashed .330/.356/.442 across 46 total games in the Major Leagues.
In the 2057 season Ballesteros finally
found a starting role, replacing 2053 MVP and 7-Time All-Star Roland Profanter. Dante took advantage of the situation and showed the world that he deserved that starting spot. That season across 142 games in RF, Dante hit .327/.386./.450 while leading the league in stolen bases. Despite never playing the position before, Dante picked up the position of RF quickly and improved greatly as the season went on. Dante would be awarded with his first All-Star appearance and the AL Silver Slugger award for RF.
Dante continued to improve in the 2058 season, spending countless hours working on his fielding in RF. Despite not being selected to the All-Star team following some early season injuries, Dante finished the year with a .337 batting average, a massive 66 stolen bases and 5.2 WAR. Although he missed out on repeating as the AL Silver Slugger in RF, he added a new trophy to his collection with the 2058 AL Gold Glove in RF.
The 2059 season was more of the same thing for Dante. With a .348 average, 72 stolen bases, 6.4 WAR, his second All-Star appearance and Gold Glove, Ballesteros had become the best RF in the game. On his way to another historic October, with 12 hits through the first 5 games of the postseason, Dante strained his PCL in game 2 of the ALCS and would go on to miss the rest of the postseason.
Just days after the end of the 2059 season and his 6th straight World Series win Dante Ballesteros was informed that he would be traded to the San Francisco Giants. Set to make $28 million in his final year of arbitration and with the White Sox having no room for the $40 million/yr contract extension he sought, the White Sox determined the best course of action was to trade
Ballesteros for whatever value they still could get.
Packaged with fellow All-Star Outfielder Ramiro Parada and a couple low level prospects, Ballesteros was traded to the Giants for 21 yo. CF Alex Rodriguez. “A-Rod” was the 2059 ROTY (and All-Star) who posted a .348/.424/.558 slash line and 7.2 WAR for the Giants.
Dante Ballesteros finished his White Sox career with 773 hits, good for a .338 BA, 227 SBs (90% SB%), and 21.1 WAR in three full seasons’ worth of games across 6 years. For the White Sox he was 2x All-Star, 1x Silver Slugger, 2x Gold Glover, 1x ALDS MVP, 1x World Series MVP and a 6x World Series Champion
. Dante Ballesteros career stats Dante Ballesteros Ratings
Looking back the decision to trade the pick for Ballesteros was definitely the right move. Shoutout to u/PyreDruid
for helping me make my decision. There wasn’t much attention on the first post, so this might get lost as well and I don’t know if this sub appreciates text stories like this, but if the support here seems good, I’ll try to keep posting them cause I enjoyed looking back on all the players writing this.
EDIT: Wow, the response seems really positive so far. I definitely enjoyed writing this, so when I get the time, I'll try to do more. I think just looking into all the history in it all has made me appreciate more all the storylines within the numbers. Also thank you to u/nostrautist
for the gold!
The Roark Arby's to Stadium Distance Index: A Possible Glimpse as to Why Tanner Roark Signed to Toronto
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During the trade deadline of 2019, Tanner Roark, a pitcher that would get traded from Cincinnati to Oakland, had a moment of fame following this tweet:
Tanner Roark learned of his trade in an @arbys parking lot. He wanted a beef and cheddar (and curly fries). He was driving to Atlanta, where he lives in the off-season. @JonHeyman approves. He will not be driving to Oakland
Earlier yesterday, following Toronto's signing of Tanner Roark, as a food connoisseur, I remarked how there wasn't even an Arby's in Toronto
. I therefore wondered if Tanner Roark signed to Toronto just to specifically get away from Arby's.
The Roark Arby's to Stadium Distance Index
Using Arby's store locator, I inputted the address of each stadium to get the closest location according to them, then I calculated the driving distance in miles (ew, imperial measurements) between the closest indicated Arby's and the stadium using Google Maps directions.
There's one stadium where I bent the rules. The closest Arby's to Comerica Park in Detroit is in Windsor. No one should suffer through something like going to Windsor, so that's why I used the closest location in the USA.
|Team ||Miles ||Team ||Miles ||Team ||Miles |
|1. Red Sox ||39.2 ||11. Padres ||7.8 ||21. Phillies ||4.8 |
|2. Giants ||38.8 ||12. Rockies ||6.6 ||22. Royals ||4.3 |
|3. A's ||35.6 ||13. Cubs ||6.4 ||23. Cardinals ||3.5 |
|4. Blue Jays ||30.6 ||14. Braves ||5.9 ||24. Angels ||3.1 |
|5. Tigers ||11* ||15. Marlins ||5.8 ||25. Reds ||2.3 |
|6. Yankees ||9.7 ||16. Mets ||5.3 ||26. Rays ||2.1 |
|7. Mariners ||9.5 ||17. Twins ||5.2 ||27. Brewers ||1.4 |
|8. Orioles ||8.6 ||18. Diamondbacks ||5.2 ||28. Rangers ||1.2 |
|9. Astros ||8.4 ||19. White Sox ||5.1 ||29. Indians ||1.2 |
|10. Nationals ||7.9 ||20. Dodgers ||5 ||30. Pirates ||0.7 |
Therefore, in theory, if Tanner Roark signed solely based on how far he'd get away from Arby's, the Toronto Blue Jays had the fourth best chance of signing him. If the Red Sox or Giants had made an offer (idk, i don't think they did but i can't find the rumours for Roark, if they did this entire theory collapses and I will fucking die), they would have been able to sign Tanner Roark. The A's, however...
Why Roark Hates Arby's and Why Oakland Wouldn't Have Kept Roark: My Theory
So, Oakland is further away from Arby's, and Oakland is where Tanner Roark last pitched, right? Easy extension.
But, if you factor in one of the A's actions, I don't think it's hard to realize why Roark would want to stay away from Oakland. After the Arby's tweet, the A's mascot, Stomper, greeted Roark with some Arby's.
Credit to the A's, they saw a meme opportunity and they took advantage of it by getting Tanner Roark some Arby's at all costs. However, the closest Arby's to the Oakland Coliseum is 35.6 miles away in Sunnyvale. Assuming they met at the Coliseum and Stomper had to wait for Roark, that would mean driving 35.6 miles in Bay Area traffic plus additional time to wait for Roark. They could have met somewhere else but I don't think it would have been that far from Oakland to make a huge difference.
That must have meant the Beef 'N Cheddar sandwich was in a pretty shit state by the time it was handed over to him.
Arby's and Toronto
Tronno hasn't had an arby's in a while. There used to be some in the malls but they all shut down. No one has since thought "hey let's open an Arby's in Toronto", so I think Tanner Roark is safe in Toronto for the next few years.
However, there is a real chance that Roark could still be forced to visit an Arby's while with the Blue Jays. The closest Arby's to Toronto is in Burlington. No one really thinks about Burlington. However, it is geographically positioned on the road between Toronto and Buffalo, where Toronto has its AAA affiliate. I think it's great incentive for Roark to perform in Toronto. Imagine this:
Charlie Montoyo: "Hey Tanner I need to talk to you for a moment"
Tanner Roark: "Hey skip what's up"
Montoyo: "So your first start didn't really go so well. They scored 7 runs in the first inning and you had to leave in the third. Although two were unearned because Vladdy airmailed a ground ball from third base again, you still need to pitch better. Sam Gaviglio, you know, our long relief guy, hasn't quite recovered yet after we worked him harder last year than Boxer in Animal Farm, so we got people like you in who could pitch innings so that we don't have to send him yet to the glue factory."
Roark: "I understand that I need to pitch better."
Montoyo: "You really wouldn't want to get sent down to Triple-A."
Roark: "I don't want it either."
Montoyo: "Yeah, you shouldn't. Did you know there's like 6 Arby's between Toronto and Buffalo?"
Roark: "OH SHIT"
Tanner Roark proceeds to give up no more earned runs, pitch 3 no hitters and unanimously win the Cy Young.
Sidenote: I know, I know, you can deny assignment to minor leagues at like 5 years of service time and Roark has 6 according to BRef. But imagine if Roark had, like, a really shitty agent who doesn't explain any of this stuff.
Besides, he could also go to Buffalo because of a rehab assignment. He could become superhuman as a result knowing that any injury would send him to Buffalo.
Conclusion The Oakland A's fed Tanner Roark a Beef N' Cheddar sandwich that sat out for too long and therefore Roark is trying to get away from Arby's as much as possible. Toronto was the furthest he could get away from Arby's.
Longest Active Minor League Affiliations
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A brief snapshot of each team's longest standing minor league affiliation, from youngest to oldest:
Milwaukee Brewers - Wisconsin Timber Rattlers (Appleton, WI - A -Midwest League) - 11 seasons
A partnership between two Wisconsin teams seems like a no-brainer, but this is the "youngest" oldest affiliation in Major League Baseball. The Timber Rattlers trace their history back to the Appleton Papermakers of 1909, and the franchise has played affiliated baseball since 1942. Nevertheless, they have had partnerships with nine different teams (including the likes of the St. Louis Browns, Boston Braves, and Washington Senators) before signing on with the Brewers in 2009.
Arizona Diamondbacks - Visalia Rawhide (Visalia, CA, A-Advanced - California League) - 13 seasons
The Visalia Oaks began a relationship with Diamondbacks in 2007; two years later they were rechristened the Rawhide. Baseball in Visalia dates to 1946, and the franchise has played in the same stadium (Recreation Park) through nine names and nine different parent clubs.
Texas Rangers - Frisco RoughRiders (Frisco, TX - AA - Texas League) / Spokane Indians (Spokane, WA - Short Season A - Northwestern League) - 17 seasons
The Rangers brought their AA presence close to home when they partnered with the newly established Frisco RoughRiders in 2003. While Frisco was a totally new venture, Spokane has baseball roots going back to 1892. They also began a partnership with the Rangers in 2003, their second tenure with the parent club (they were also aligned with Texas from 1973-1975).
Los Angeles Dodgers - Ogden Raptors (Ogden, UT - Rookie - Pioneer League) - 17 seasons
Los Angeles and Ogden have been affiliated since 2003. The Raptors originated as the Calgary Cardinals in 1977, also playing in Salt Lake City and Pocatello, Idaho before settling in Ogden in 1994. This team is currently marked as a contraction candidate.
Miami Marlins - Jupiter Hammerheads (Jupiter, FL - A-Advanced - Florida State League) - 18 seasons
The Marlins and the Hammerheads began their partnership in 2002. The Hammerheads were originally a long-time affiliate of the Montreal Expos, and were known as the West Palm Beach Expos from 1969 to 1997.
Houston Astros - Tri-City ValleyCats (Troy, NY - Short Season A - New York-Penn League) - 18 seasons
The Astros and ValleyCats have been affiliated since 2002, the first year of the the ValleyCats' existence. The team had previously based in Pittsfield, Massachusetts as the Pittsfield Astros (and before that, the Pittsfield Mets).
Los Angeles Angels - Salt Lake Bees (Salt Lake City, UT - AAA - Pacific Coast League) - 19 seasons
The Angels began an affiliation with the Salt Lake Stingers in 2001. The Stingers became the Bees in 2005, renewing the name used by Utah's first professional baseball team starting in 1915. The current Bees began play in 1994.
San Diego Padres - Fort Wayne TinCaps (Fort Wayne, IN - A - Midwest League) - 21 seasons
Fort Wayne and San Diego began their relationship in 1999. The TinCaps franchise has a history winding back to 1947, and the team has had many identities in cities in Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin, and (now) Indiana. They were the Fort Wayne Wizards when they first affiliated with the Padres, later becoming the TinCaps in 2009.
Pittsburgh Pirates - Altoona Curve (Altoona, PA - AA - Eastern League) - 21 seasons
The Altoona Curve were established in 1999 as a result of major league expansion creating a need for more minor league clubs. The Pirates and the Curve have been affiliated since the 1999 season.
Oakland Athletics - Midland RockHounds (Midland, TX - AA - Southern League) - 21 seasons
Oakland and Midland began their partnership in 1999. Midland has been home to Double-A baseball since 1972, enjoying fairly long affiliations with the Cubs and Angels before joining up with the Athletics.
Tampa Bay Rays - Hudson Valley Renegades (Fishkill, NY - Short Season A - New York Penn League) - 24 years
The Rays have enjoyed a fair deal of continuity with minor league teams in their young history, and they still have affiliations with three teams from their inaugural season in 1998. The Durham Bulls and Princeton (Devil) Rays have both been partnered with Tampa Bay from early on, but the Hudson Valley Renegades are technically the oldest affiliate, playing under the Devil Rays banner as early as 1996, two full years before the major league club took the field.
Seattle Mariners - Tacoma Rainiers (Tacoma, WA - AAA - Pacific Coast League) / Everett AquaSox (Everett, WA - Short Season A - Northwest League) - 25 seasons
Seattle made two lasting affiliation changes in 1995, on the higher and lower ends of the minor league hierarchy. The Rainiers date back to the Tacoma Giants of 1960 and the AquaSox date back to the Everett Giants of 1984.
New York Yankees - Tampa Tarpons (Tampa, FL - A-Advanced - Florida State League) - 26 seasons
The Tampa Yankees were established in 1994, and have always been affiliated with the New York Yankees. The team re-branded as the Tarpons in 2019, harking back to another Tampa franchise with the name that played for about thirty years.
Colorado Rockies - Asheville Tourists (Asheville, NC - A - South Atlantic League) - 26 seasons
The Rockies' affiliation with the Tourists almost goes back through their entire history, but not quite. Asheville's professional baseball history dates back at least to 1897, with the Asheville Moonshiners. The Tourists are the only Single A affiliate Colorado has ever had; the team did not have one in their debut 1993 season (although they did have the A-Advanced Central Valley Rockies and the Short Season A Bend Rockies).
Washington Nationals - Harrisburg Senators (Harrisburg, PA - AA - Eastern League) - 29 seasons
Don't let the name fool you - this affiliation predates the Nationals' existence by almost 15 years. Professional baseball in Harrisburg has roots going back to the 1890's, with the Senators moniker being used as early as 1894. The Montreal Expos began their partnership with Harrisburg in 1991, and the relationship survived the Expos' relocation and re-branding.
Cleveland Indians - Akron RubberDucks (Akron, OH - AA - Eastern League) - 31 seasons
This affiliation started when the Vermont Mariners moved to Ohio and became the Canton-Akron Indians, starting their new identity and new partnership in 1989. The minor league club became the Akron Aeros in 1997, then re-branded again as the RubberDucks in 2014.
San Francisco Giants - San Jose Giants (San Jose, CA - A-Advanced - California League) - 32 seasons
San Jose has had a professional baseball team since 1962, starting with the San Jose Bees. Their affiliation with the San Francisco Giants began in 1988.
Toronto Blue Jays - Dunedin Blue Jays (Dunedin, FL - A-Advanced - Florida State League) - 33 seasons
There have actually been two different incarnations of the minor league club aligned with Toronto: the short-lived Dunedin Blue Jays of 1978-79, and the current iteration, which started play in 1987. Dunedin is also the major league Blue Jays' spring training home.
Chicago White Sox - Birmingham Barons (Birmingham, AL - AA - Southern League) - 34 seasons
Professional baseball in Birmingham dates back to at least the Birmingham Coal Barons in 1885. The current incarnation relocated from Montgomery, Alabama in 1981, and has partnered with the White Sox since 1986. They achieved some notoriety outside the baseball world in 1994 when Michael Jordan played with the team during his basketball hiatus.
Baltimore Orioles - Frederick Keys (Frederick, MD - A-Advanced - Carolina League) - 38 seasons
The Orioles affiliated with the Hagerstown Suns in 1981, then maintained that relationship through the team's relocation in 1989. Professional baseball has been a presence in Frederick since 1915, although there was a gap of several decades from 1930-1989 where the city did not have a team. They are currently marked as a contraction candidate.
Atlanta Braves - Danville Braves (Danville, VA - Rookie - Appalachian League) - 38 seasons
Atlanta's relationship with the Appalachian League Braves goes back to when the team was located in Pulaski, Virginia, starting in 1982. Atlanta affiliated with the Pulaski Braves for eleven seasons, then the team moved to Danville, where they continue to play today. They are currently marked as a contraction candidate.
Chicago Cubs - Iowa Cubs (Des Moines, IA - AAA - Pacific Coast League) - 39 seasons
The Iowa Oaks had several different affiliates during the first twelve or so years of existence, but finally struck a lasting relationship when they joined up with the Cubs in 1981. The spent their first year as a Cubs affiliate as the Oaks, then changed their name the following season.
New York Mets - Kingsport Mets (Kingsport, TN - Rookie - Appalachian League) - 40 seasons
The Kingsport club has typically been named for its parent team, having existed in some form since 1921 when they began play as the Kingsport Indians. They have been affiliated with the New York Mets since 1980. They are currently marked as a contraction candidate.
St. Louis Cardinals - Johnson City Cardinals (Johnson City, TN - Rookie - Appalachian League) - 45 seasons
The Johnson City Yankees became the Johnson City Cardinals when they affiliated with St. Louis in 1975. Johnson City has had a baseball club in some form since at least 1910, with the Johnson City Soldiers. They are currently marked as a contraction candidate.
Minnesota Twins - Elizabethton Twins (Elizabethton, TN - Rookie - Appalachian League) - 46 seasons
The Twins twins have been partnered since 1974, tied with the Red/Mustangs as the longest affiliation in Rookie level ball. Elizabethton has never had another major league parent club. They are currently marked as a contraction candidate.
Cincinnati Reds - Billings Mustangs (Billings, MT - Rookie - Pioneer League) - 46 seasons
The Reds and the Mustangs have shared a relationship since 1974, the longest affiliation in the Pioneer League. The Billings club has existed since 1948, with a five year hiatus during the 1960's. They are currently marked as a contraction candidate.
Boston Red Sox - Pawtucket Red Sox (Pawtucket, RI - AAA - International League) - 50 seasons
The PawSox's affiliation with the Red Sox began in 1970, but almost ended less than a decade later, when the team (briefly rechristened the Rhode Island Red Sox) was in massive debt, taken over by the league, and effectively dissolved. However, a local businessman stepped in and was awarded a new franchise, which took over the Pawtucket Red Sox brand, maintaining a consistent identity. Change is on the horizon, however, as the team intends to relocate to Worcester, Massachusetts for the 2021 season.
Kansas City Royals - Omaha Storm Chasers (Omaha, NE - AAA, Pacific Coast League) - 51 seasons
The Royals are one of only two teams (the other being the Tampa Bay Rays) with an affiliate that has remained constant since their inception. Both the Omaha and Kansas City teams were founded in 1969, and Kansas City has never had a different AAA team. The Storm Chasers were known as the Omaha Royals through most of their history, from 1969 to 2010, briefly re-branding as the Omaha Golden Spikes from 1999-2001 before becoming Royals again. They adopted their current name in 2011.
Philadelphia Phillies - Reading Fightin Phils (Reading, PA - AA, Eastern League) - 53 seasons
Established in 1967 as the Reading Phillies, the "Fightins" (as they have been known since 2013) have never been affiliated with another franchise. Baseball in Reading dates back to at least 1858, and city has had affiliated minor league baseball off and on since 1927. The Philadelphia Phillies bought the team outright in 1998.
Detroit Tigers - Lakeland Flying Tigers (Lakeland, FL - A-Advanced, Florida State League) - 57 seasons
The Tigers began their alliance with the Lakeland Tigers in 1963. Lakeland has had a baseball team since 1960, briefly affiliating with the Indians and Giants before beginning a relationship with Detroit that has lasted for over half a century. They were renamed the Flying Tigers in 2006 as an homage to the Lakeland School of Aeronautics, which trained thousands of pilots during World War II. The Flying Tigers play in Joker Marchant Stadium, which has served as the Spring Training home of the Tigers since 1966.
Dodger of the Day: Jim Neidlinger (P, 1990)
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Hoo boy, back after eight months
of anxiety kept me from writing these.
Today's Dodger of the Day is pitcher Jim Neidlinger.
James Llewyn Neidlinger was born September 24, 1964, in Vallejo, California. The Pittsburgh Pirates signed as an undrafted free agent in 1984 and spent the next six years bouncing around Pittsburgh's minor league system. He spent most of his playing time in AA and Single-A; he was named the Eastern League's Pitcher of the Year in 1986.
Neidlinger saw two brief stints in AAA during his time with the Pirates. He started four games for the PCL's Hawaii Islanders in 1986 and pitched four innings over three appearances in 1988. Like many other minor leaguers, Neidlinger took a second job, working 70 hours a week as a UPS driver.
He was traded to the Dodgers October 3, 1988, for southpaw Bill Krueger (who I will, God willing, get to at some point). His arrival with the team came as a relief. In a Los Angeles Times dated September 7, 1990, Neidlinger said, "when I (Jim Neidlinger) came to the Dodgers' organization (in 1989), I remember sitting down with minor league instructor Dave Wallace and telling him, 'Look, I'm a good person. I don't complain or moan, all I want is an opportunity to pitch--at triple-A... That's how low I was. I wasn't even thinking about the major leagues."
Neidlinger got serious time in AAA in 1989, appearing in 24 games for the Albuquerque Dukes. He pitched 139 innings and had a 4.06 ERA, but with a not-so-stellar 10.6 H/9.
The 25-year-old Neidlinger made his MLB debut August 1, 1990
, at Dodger Stadium against the San Francisco Giants. He pitched six innings, giving up one run on seven hits and striking out three. The Dodgers lost the game 2-1; closer Jay Howell gave up a ninth-inning solo shot to catching great and future Dodger Gary Carter.
Neidlinger's first win would have to wait until August 12 in Atlanta
. The Dodgers put up three runs in the first and four in the fourth to support Neidlinger's seven-inning, two-run performance and win the game 7-3. His final appearance in the majors would come September 29
in San Francisco. It was a 4.1-inning, four-run stinker that may have sunk his chances at an extended career.
He spent 1991 and 1992 back in Albuquerque. He had an ERA over 4.00 in both seasons and never really got his H/9 down. It says something that, despite his relative success at the MLB level, he couldn't even crack the Dodger roster during this relative dark age for the team.
In 1993, he signed with the Twins and spent the season with the PCL's Portland Beavers. His ERA ballooned to over 5.00 and he averaged more than six RA/9. An attempt to salvage his career with the AAA Cardinals affiliate was aborted after just seven games. He retired shortly thereafter. He moved to Vermont and worked in the college game, first as an assistant at the University of Vermont from 1995-1997, then as an assistant at Middlebury College from 2007-2016. He is currently the head coach at St. Michael's College, a D-II in Colchester, Vermont. Remember these?
Joe Schultz Sr.
"Sweet" Lou Johnson
Better Know the (ones left off the) Ballot #7: Jamey Wright
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Happy New Decade! It's a new year, and that means there are less than three weeks until the results of the Hall of Fame Ballot come out! It seems like in order to hit that deadline, I may have to cut some corners, but we should get through it somehow. With that being said, again, you can catch up at the bottom, and now our feature presentation
Jamey Wright Bill James Hall of Fame Monitor: 10
Career bWAR (19 years): 10.2
Stats: 97-130, 4.81 ERA, 719 G, 248 GS, 2 SV, 1.545 WHIP, 1189 K
League Leading Stats: 2x Hit Batsmen (18, 2000/20, 2001)
Teams Played For: *deep breath* Rockies (1996-1999, 2004-2005), Brewers (2000-2002), Cardinals (2002), Royals (2003, 2009), Giants (2006), Rangers (2007-2008), Indians (2010), Mariners (2010-2011), Dodgers (2012, 2014), Rays (2013)
Show of hands, who remembers Jamey Wright? Wow! Six whole hands? More than I expected, honestly. Jamey Wright was never the pitcher who grabbed the spotlight. He was never really on the stage, even. He just showed up, did his job, and kept showing up for 19 years because he kept getting work. Let's take a look at the work he did.
Jamey Wright began his journey as the first draft pick the Colorado Rockies made as an active franchise, taken 28th overall in the 1993 MLB Draft. He was an okay sinkerballer for his first couple years in the minors, but started collecting some hype prior to the 1996 season. He'd had a 2.47 ERA in A+ ball at 20 years old, leading him to being named the 2nd best Rockies prospect and the 66th best prospect in the league by Baseball America. That year, he would post a minor league ERA of 1.90 en route to an invitation to the big dance. Now, one might look at his 4-4 record and 4.93 ERA in 15 games started and think "well, that didn't go very well." Allow me to remind you, Jamey Wright was pitching in the MLB for the first time, as a member of the Colorado Rockies, in 1996. It's a miracle his ERA wasn't in double digits. Because Jamey still had a throwing arm attached to his shoulder for the next several seasons, the Rockies stuck with him. After four years and over 500 innings in 91 games started, Wright boasted a career 5.57 ERA. This is not a good ERA. However, due to him pitching in Coors during the heart of the Steroid Era before the Rockies decided a humidor was a good idea, his bWAR total sat at a not-all-that-bad 4.0. Nevertheless, after the 1999 season, the Rockies, in a trade for Jeff Cirillo, sent Wright to the Brewers. Wright kept pitching, but appeared to have either some issues with his control or an anger management problem, hitting a total of 49 batters in almost three years in Milwaukee. Wright got traded to St. Louis in 2002 for a couple Pokemon cards and a Beanie Baby, pitched in 4 games for them, and didn't leave enough of an impression to warrant an additional contract. At this point, Jamey's career was not in a good place. A career ERA of 5.17 is not a good look for someone about to enter free agency, no matter what era you happen to play in or what stadium may have inflated it. Of course, if he stopped there, I wouldn't be talking about him.
In 2003, Wright signed with the Mariners in January, but got released before spring training was out, coming back to the Brewers on a minor league deal. Now, I've only touched on one season of Wright's minor league pitching, but whenever Colorado would send him down to work on his game, he killed it. When the Brewers sent him down in 2000 and he started four games for their minor league affiliates, after those 4 games his minor league ERA was 0.52. There were exceptions, like 1999 when his AAA ERA was actually higher than it was in the Major Leagues, but for the most part he was solid as a rock in the minors. 2003 would prove to be another exception. In 7 games for the Brewers AAA affiliate the Indianapolis Indians, Wright's ERA sat at 7.36, and his contract sat at nonexistent anymore because the Brewers released him. The Rangers gave him a minor league deal, but after seven starts of 4.12 ERA, they bid him farewell once again. Finally, the Kansas City Royals gave him a call, and after 12 starts for the Omaha Royals he was in a royal blue KC uniform. His first game back in the majors, he pitched a complete game against the defending World Series Champions the Anaheim Angels. Problem: the Royals lost. The next game, against the juggernaut that was the 38-win Detroit Tigers, Wright pitched a Complete-Game Shutout striking out 7. This brought his career total of complete games to 6, where it would stay for the rest of his career, meaning though he only ever started four games for the Royals, they account for one third of his complete games. The other two starts did not go well, and Jamey was left with a 4.26 ERA at the end off the year, but he had shown he was far from done.
In a season where the Royals won 83 games despite 15 different pitchers starting at least 2 games for them, they made the questionable decision to dismiss Wright, and went with one of their draft picks named Zack... Greenkey, I think? His last name looks weird. They also kept Chris "I had a 7.11 ERA in 18 starts" George around, but let Wright walk. Lord knows why. He went to the Cubs for spring training, they decided they didn't want him and he opted for free agency right before April of 2004. The Royals, seemingly repenting, signed Wright to a minor league deal, but after a pedestrian 4.21 ERA for Omaha by mid-July, they once again let him walk. The baseball gods punished them for their stupidity with a 104-loss season. Now what would you expect a 29-year-old pitcher who just got cut from an AAA team to do in this situation? He'd have plenty of time to fine tune his pitches, see if he could add to his arsenal, and work his way back to the majors with renewed determination and a fire under his ass, right? Well, Wright was unemployed for less than 24 hours, because the Rockies, God bless 'em, picked up the phone and got him back on the Major League roster. He would put up a 2-3 record with a 4.16 ERA in 14 starts for them through the end of the year.
The next several years were sink-or-swim for Wright in the MLB. Get it? Because he throws a sinker? I spend hours refining my comedic form. The Rockies brought him back and kept him in the starting rotation for most of 2005, where he would go 8-16 with a 5.46 ERA, and since the humidors got turned on and the steroids had worn off, this was no longer acceptable on the Rockies. He was eventually moved to the bullpen late in the year, shortly followed by his ninth trip to Free-Agency-ville. The Giants picked him up, he gave them 6-10 with a 5.17 ERA, and they sent him on FA trip number ten. He pitched, primarily out of the bullpen, for Texas, Kansas City again, and Cleveland. Consistently not good enough to re-sign but not bad enough to release, June 2010 marked the end of that run when Cleveland released him. Soon enough, he found himself on the Mariners major league squad, and in his age 35 season, gave Seattle 37 innings of 3.41 ERA ball. This was his best ERA for a team over the course of a season in his career. They brought him back for 2011, and he again put up his best ERA over a whole season at 3.16, again out of the bullpen. Somehow, at the point where he was supposed to have been out of the league for a while, Wright got better. His fastball could barely touch 90, he was eligible to run for President of the United States, and yet he improved his stuff. His next five seasons out of the bullpen with the Mariners, Rays, and Dodgers, he put up a combined 15-15 record with a 3.68 ERA. That is lower than any of his full season ERAs from before 2006. He even pitched in his first postseason game with the Tampa Bay Rays in 2013 at the blossoming age of 38, after a season in which he again posted the lowest ERA of his career at 3.09. To put his last five seasons into perspective, without them, Wright's career ERA is 5.03 (if ya don't recall, his lifetime ERA is in fact 4.81). Unfortunately, the magic would not continue, as after sitting out the 2015 season and not making the Dodgers' roster, he called it a career in 2016 at 41. Maybe if he kept going and trends kept up he'd eventually pitch a perfect game at age 53, who knows.
If I were to compare Jamey Wright to a football player, it'd be Josh McCown. Always there, hardly ever relevant, but as they both age they both become more interesting, and somehow keep finding work. They also have enough different jerseys in their closet to clothe a small battalion. Wright's story is a quirky one, as this article can attest, but he kept at it until he couldn't anymore, which is admirable. And hey, how many pitchers do you know that had a 6+ ERA in one of their first couple seasons and then stuck around for like 10+ years? Roy WHOlladay?
Despite his 5.40 career ERA and 35-52 record with them, it wouldn't be right if Jamey were to visit the Hall of Fame in anything but a Rockies cap.
Here's every other entry in this series if you want to catch up on it. They're here if you don't, too.
#1 Nate McLouth
#2: Kyle Farnsworth
#3: Ryan Ludwick
#4: Joe Saunders
#5: Jason Bartlett
#6: Mark Ellis
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